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ID: Drawing of a duck billed platypus underwater, they're wearing a rainbow coloured t shirt and a pink bum-bag, and saying: "Ally is not something you can self-identify as, it's a title that you earn. Let your actions speak for themselves!"

Credit: Sophie Labelle

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[–] [email protected] 36 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (2 children)

I got mine from the Emperor of Gay People in the mail just this Friday. I framed it and put it next to my n-word pass on the mantle.

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[–] [email protected] 68 points 3 weeks ago (7 children)

Counterpoint: you can absolutely self identify as an Ally. For example, I self identity as an Ally and there ain’t shit this adorable platypus can do to stop me.

I’m an Ally because I choose to be, by my words and my actions and the example I set for my children every day. I don’t need an attaboy from any marginalized group to confirm I’m on the right side of history. We do what’s right because it’s right. Full stop.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

While I agree with the sentiment, it's like labelling yourself "a good neighbor" or a "best friend". You don't get to decide if you're "a good neighbor" or not - your neighbors do. You don't get to decide if you are someone's best friend - they do. In the exact same way, you don't get to decide if you're an ally or not - the group that you're allied with does.

You can strive to be a good person and identify with being one if that label has been given to you, but certain labels, including "ally", aren't ones you can just give yourself.

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[–] [email protected] 138 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

I agree with speaking with your actions here, but at the same time, this seems like some weirdly unnecessary gatekeeping.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Hmm, I wonder what I managed to accomplish in the womb

[–] [email protected] 24 points 3 weeks ago (5 children)

Help us out though, what can we do to be better allies? I try to be a good one, but I don't know if I'm coming up short.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 3 weeks ago

To the kind of person that draws and publishes a gay platypus comic? As much performative kowtowing as possible knowing that nothing can ever be enough. Consistently voting against conservative bullshit and treating gay people like you'd treat anyone else your entire life certainly isn't enough. It's like how the Westboro Baptists don't think you're a real Christian unless you're currently lighting a family planning center on fire. The people who are REALLY FUCKING INTO IT are mostly just making the moderates on their side look like puckered assholes.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 weeks ago

That‘s honestly a terribly broad question.

What are the people you are allies to telling you they want or are missing? Are you helping them in achieving what they want?

What are you doing for them besides that and do you think it is the right thing to do?

And yeah I don’t know, coming up short is a pretty loaded phrase. Some struggles we might still lose and still we have to fight regardless and relentlessly. And if you „fall short“ just try to do more, as well as the fact that we cannot all provide the same kind of support so its gonna be very personally biased either way

[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 weeks ago

Is it not about being as fair as you can? This is my approach at least .__.

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[–] [email protected] 46 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Before I realized and came out as bi, I was in the GSA (gay-straight alliance) in high school as a "straight." My state was voting to ban gay marriage at the time, and we campaigned against it. I got just as much if not more hate from people than the LGBT members. Maybe because they viewed them as a lost cause? It was usually adults yelling at a 17-year-old kid for being a "betrayer" and a "pervert lover" (I liked that one), just because I supported two consenting adults marrying regardless of gender. Staunch allies definitely earn the title.

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