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CAFE by GE for those who are wondering.

We are renovating our house including all new appliances. I have told my partner to make sure we get non smart appliances. This is why.

Yes I can setup a VLAN for it to be on but that's not the point.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 weeks ago

Even setting up a vlan doesn't work half the time because the mobile apps don't talk directly with the appliance but phone home to a cloud service. A cloud service that will eventually go offline and leave the appliances orphaned. That's how GE's thermostats work.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 weeks ago

What does the dismiss button do? Or the back button.

Just based on the messages (that could be miss leading) sounds like some features will not work.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (2 children)

That's because air fryer.

There are no dumb air fryers, are there?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 weeks ago

Air fryer in this case just refers to the convection oven setting on the stove. It's not a standalone air fryer.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 weeks ago

Mine doesn't connect to anything AFAIK. Actually, maybe it has Bluetooth? I've never bothered with it, though.

[–] [email protected] 42 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Smart appliances are such a ridiculous scam.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 weeks ago

I actually find it very nice to get notifications about my toaster oven being preheated or done cooking, or being able to see how much time is left or remotely stop it.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I can totally see a point in some of the features.

The other day my wife and I got 20 minutes from home before I said "oh shit I don't know if I turned the oven off". Turns out I did, but we had to drive home to check. I would have loved to pull up an app that told me it was actually off, or even if I was on be able to turn it off from there.

With that said, it's not worth all the extra bullshit in my opinion.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

And what if someone else downloads the app and turns in on?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

That's always a possibility especially when every company under the sun is making smart things on a whim for as cheap as possible. I don't trust any of them as far as I can throw an oven.

I have a few random smart things, but before I connect them to the internet I make sure they have a decent api that I can use, block external access from the router and set up a little interface so that I can VPN into my home and control stuff if I need to. So in order for anything to be compromised my whole network would have to be owned. Which is still possible but I trust that a lot more than letting 20 different apps for each device have access to anything in my home.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Another way to say this is that a hacker needs only access to your private network to gain control of all connected devices.

IMO this is hardly worth it when the benefits are I can check my oven remotely or I can check what the vacuum is doing.

I tend to not buy connected devices if it can be avoided.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 weeks ago

Then the cookies are going to be burnt

[–] [email protected] 11 points 3 weeks ago

It's so you can have the New Turkey Mode

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