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[–] [email protected] 30 points 23 hours ago (11 children)

Just waiting for the day when someone can explain to me what makes a man a man without describing skills, qualities, and actions that anyone can do regardless of gender.

And don't tell me it's "have a penis", because if that were true then effeminate men wouldn't be insulted all the time for not being "real" men, and there wouldn't be toxic masculinity.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I've never heard anyone say that phrase, is it possible that people use that expression to mean "a man likes to feel like a man... not a machine"? Ie he has thoughts, emotions, and priorities. He is not a commodity, his worth is more than just profit he can produce.

Not that women don't also have those attributes, just that "man" is being used as an outdated shorthand for humanity.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago) (6 children)

I'm not sure how i feel about the post altogether. I mean, i understand that toxic masculinity is bad, but this post needs some assumptions and context to make me want to side with it. For example, if I saw some guy just kinda minding his business doing silly guy stuff and the context was he wants to "feel like a man," i don't think i would be offended or concerned?

r/justguysbeingdudes comes to mind

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago

Or maybe we are just sick and tired of fighting the world and don’t want that kind of drama at home with our partner.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Empowerment is for women only. Noted.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

Empowerment is when people make themselves subservient around you? If you need everyone around you do defer to your ego that's not empowerment.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

The source of women's empowerment isn't men pretending that women are strong. It's women who changed.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

How are you empowered by "feeling like a man"? What does that even mean?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Why would it matter what it means? There is someone asking for validation and is ridiculed for it.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

What would you consider a proper response to this?

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

Why are strangers under any obligation to validate each other?

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Every man is by definition a man and feels like one.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago

i wish that were true

[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I’ve always thought the least manly quality you can have is caring about how manly you are.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 day ago

This whole “like a man” thing sounds to me like an extension of the toxic cultural BS where “men” are not just humans with emotions and needs like every other human. It reeks of men who are too scared or ignorant to be self-aware and figure out what life really means to them, and thus they need the people around them (especially the partners) to play along in their power/masculinity fantasy.

What a man needs is to realize he’s just another human, and that for humans happiness and fulfillment can ultimately only come from within. Relationships with others are crucial, and you might even need some medication to get your brain chemistry unfucked, but neither of those are independently going to make you happy with yourself and “feel like a man.”

“A man” can refer to roughly half the adult population. It’s not exactly an exclusive club. Why not leave gender out if it and try to be “a good person” and see where that gets you?

Having the people around you walking on eggshells to keep your manly ego intact, whether it’s out of fear or pity, is the exact opposite of what a good person should strive for. What if the people around you instead trust you, feel safe with you, laugh with you, and are better off with you in their lives?

Source: Am man. Went through some stuff. Figured some things out. Made some things better. Have wife and child who enjoy life.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 day ago (3 children)

I thought "feeling like a man" meant eating a lot of meat and losing money on sports betting.

Idk I don't do traditional man things.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 23 hours ago (2 children)

I know you're joking, but I don't get people who unironically think like this. Like whats preventing a woman from eating lots of meat and losing money on sports betting? Like what physical barrier prevents them from doing that? None.

So how could that define manhood?

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 day ago

I do do traditional man things: woodworking, maintenance on the family vehicles, and I’ve been thinking of getting into machining as a hobby because I have a lot of hand-me-down yard equipment that’s showing its age and I might need to start making my own parts because eBay is looking kind of barren.

Anyway, none of these activities have ever made me feel “manly” I never understood what that means. I feel like myself doing either something I enjoy, or something that needs to be done. My wife always says that she likes that she married such a manly guy who can fix all this stuff and make furniture, but anyone with functioning hands and a brain can do this stuff, it’s not exactly hard. Having a penis doesn’t make you an expert carpenter or mediocre mechanic, working with wood and old engines does that.

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[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 day ago (2 children)

From somebody named "geekandmisandry".

[–] [email protected] 5 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

Yeah because no one ever picks an online username that doesn't perfectly represent their irl personality 1:1

You have no idea how this person behaves offline, you're just reacting to their username

[–] [email protected] 6 points 22 hours ago

I thought that it was amusing. I have no idea why somebody would want that in their username.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 day ago

That just shows you how impartial they are to the whole thing

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