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Whike this is for Finland I often wonder why Australia doesn't do such a thing? (That's not an argument for or against doing it but a genuine question)

If the LNP/ALP are so concered about an invasion by China that they'll bankrupt the nation to buy a few token nuclear submarines.it seems beyond bizzare to me that the sort of preparedness in the article is not prioritised as well? Or is it becase the submarine thing is all dick waving and posturing for votes and has little to do with actual national defence ?

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

Ok, so it looks like you want to yell at the military kickbacks, and the fact that nations trade shiny death machines for stupid reasons. Fair enough but goddamn, doing it on a post on Finland military training? That's shoehorning it in.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Welll

  1. Finland has compulsory service, we don't. Good luck trying to implement that

  2. a war with china will be very different to what finland are facing. We don't share any land paths with anyone, there's a reason why we were the last continent to be (semi) heavily populated. Invasions for us mean air and sea.

  3. the specific virginia class submarine schmozzle was probably corrupt as hell and fuck morrison for cancelling the french contract

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

Well yeah but i find it "interesting" that our poltical reaponse to defence seems to be big bad toys, 1/2 of which never seem to work or we have zero ability to service in a time if war, then we can't trasport them on our roads as they're too heavy (Abrams Tanks) becase we have no rail.infrstruxture. Ukraine woukd be finished without their rail.

For the reasons you point out, there are only two nations in the world that could prosecute a war on the other side of the planet, China and the US. We have defences against neither and cant not offer ofrence against either, so at the end if the day I'm not sure why we even bother? Personally I'd be more worried about a US invasion,which they defaxto done but at least with China we'd end up with a decent railway system and better food.

Particularly after watching thr war in Ukraine unfold, everything we do in Aus. in terms if defence seeens laughable. One manufacturing facility for artillery for example. Finland seems to actually take it seriously, sure they've had war at their door in the past but so have we..