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[–] [email protected] 20 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

just fun

Yeah, no.

People use astrology to make actual life decisions and then call it fun

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 hours ago

Astrology is just temporal racism.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago)

Frankly the amount of people in my country that make decisions based on astrologers' advice is staggering. If people just did it for fun maybe I would think it's okay but they actually pay scammers and make assumptions about people just from their sign, which is actual stereotyping in contrast to what is shown in the comic

[–] [email protected] 59 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago) (4 children)

Generational divides are at least based in broadly shared material conditions, and while they shouldn't be used to make assumptions about individuals, they can be used to draw conclusions about large populations as a whole. Astrology simply has no basis whatsoever for anything.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 19 hours ago

Yep. When comparing differences between generations you'll find them but if you compare the differences between groups with different horoscopes, you likely wont find much.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 20 hours ago

Also Gen-Z typically refers to people born during a particular political/economic climate. Gen-Z in America is definitely not the same as Gen-Z in Russia or China.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago)

Generational divides are at least based in broadly shared material conditions

material conditions are not the primary factor, imho.

your shared experience and life expectations differ wildly, depending on whether you saw the berlin wall or the twins going down in your formative years.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 22 hours ago

Yeah. Look, it's a dick move to roll your eyes at gen-whatever but there are solid reasons that things are different. Foremost being that generations dictate the age of a person so you could say "those 18-30 year olds don't know shit about how hard we had it when dinosaurs wrecked homes and ate our children." I mean, being raised during different technological eras alone can change a lot. There is a clear difference. There might be something to astrology too but we don't have very good evidence of that.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago

That frog is obviously a Capricorn.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 day ago

Everyone is stupid

[–] [email protected] 40 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Astrology has one valid use.

If you're a Virgo, it means your parents had Christmas sex

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Could've been New Years sex too tho

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Could've been mid March as well

[–] [email protected] 13 points 20 hours ago

could've been adopted

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Imagine if particle physics got popularized for 10 centuries.

I believe that there are these tiny people called Quarks and they like to spin and have charming personalities

Astrology and religion seems like that. Something that once made sense and then got sorta socially digested.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

10 centuries? It's way faster than that.

Have you seen all the "quantum" rebranding in today's pseudoscientific bullshit? You know the type, the assholes selling you magic baubles to rebalance your "energy levels", "detox" yourself etc.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago)

ngl I blame physicists who communicate to the public for this

Notice how you always see a lot of nonsense mysticism around quantum mechanics like "quantum healing" but you never see anything along the lines of like "general relativity healing" or "inflation theory healing."

The difference is that often it is the physicists themselves who choose to communicate to the public who paint quantum mechanics in a mystical light. Indeed, this is not even something unique to the physicists who communicate to the public, you can sometimes even run into it in peer-reviewed publications painting QM as a theory that somehow puts conscious observers front and center and questions the existence of objective reality, or whatever rubbish philosophy people try to imbue onto some linear algebra.

The ones who communicate to the public just are often worse because they don't tell you QM as it really is, they usually tell you some personal theory they have. For example, rather than just describing how QM works, one of these science communicators might tell you their personal theory about how there's a grand multiverse, or that "consciousness" plays some sort of role, and that explains why QM works. They do not just present the theory, but their own personal speculation as an underlying explanation for it.

Because physicists themselves promote all this mysticism around a bunch of linear algebra, you end up with mystics and charlatans who realize that they can take advantage of this by talking about mystical nonsense like "quantum healing." Sure, it might be nonsensical rubbish, but the person who hears about "quantum healing" also heard a real PhD physicist tell them about multiverses and "consciousness," so they think there must be something to it as well. It gives the mysticism an air of legitimacy.

We like to kid ourselves that the mysticism is just promoted by your Deepak Chopra types or laymen who have no idea what they're talking about. But if you actually look at what a real academic philosophy department publishes, there is mysticism all throughout academic philosophy. These philosophers have also had a big impact on physicists, who often adopt these mystical attitudes they learn from the philosophy department into their own discussion, and sometimes even into their own publications.

If you actually talk to the laymen who are deeply enthralled by those quantum mystic pseudoscience charlatans, they usually can point you to multiple real academics who back their beliefs, people with legitimate credentials. This is a problem nobody seems to address and it annoys the hell out of me. Everyone paints either the charlatans or the laymen as the bad guy here, but nobody wants to talk about the elephant in the room which is the rampant mysticism in academia.

I literally argued with a PhD physicist the other day who was going around preaching to people that quantum mechanics proves that there is no physical reality and we all live inside of a "cosmic consciousness." I did not get very far with him because he just insulted me and pointed to academic philosophers who agreed with him and said I'm stupid for even questioning his claims, and then wouldn't address my criticisms.

[–] [email protected] 43 points 1 day ago (2 children)

"general era of one's birth" has a lot more impact on well... everything... About a person's life Way more than "time of year"

You are way more likely to be similar to the people born in the 5-10 years around you than to people born 50 years prior but in the same month.

But hey, as long as it's just for fun and you aren't basing major life altering decisions on things.... Why would I care if you like giggling at the little blurbs in newspapers about how ridiculous capricorns are when mars is in retrograde.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 20 hours ago

Why would I care

because then you have to ask what other stuff they do regardless of accepted facts and science. do they cast votes "for fun" too?

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 day ago

I knew a girl, whose mother sold off her house because a mystic/fortune teller/crystal fellator/astrologist told her to.

Now, whether she just inferred this on her own, or the scam artist explicitly suggested it, the outcome was the same.

Making real life decisions based off a set of tarot cards is not wise.

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