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    [–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

    no restart required

    Not true for immutable

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    [–] [email protected] 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

    I've been a Linux user on and off since 1996, and there are still times when I give up trying to install software because of cryptic error messages.

    Yes, I had my parents using Linux Mint for about 5 years, but eventually my brother who lived near them switched them to Windows because if there was a problem with Linux he couldn't help.

    Don't worry, this is definitely the year of the Linux desktop.

    [–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago (2 children)

    Perhaps its just gotten better, but I've been on it for a year or two now, and I haven't come across an error message that didn't bring up solutions when copy/pasted into google. Definitely varies by distro though, I was on EndeavourOS for most of that time, and being Arch, it has like infinite documentation.

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    [–] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago

    Missing dependency? Don't you like living away from your parents?

    [–] [email protected] 87 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (9 children)

    Let’s not cherrypick scenarios to try and pretend Linux is easier than Windows. Most normal people are nervous interacting with a GUI pop-up that gives them two options, never mind putting them into a terminal window where they could seriously fuck up their machine. What about clicking the download link on a webpage, clicking next a few times and having them software on your machine, compared to having to build something from GitHub (how many people here have never had to do that?).

    [–] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago

    Most normal people are nervous interacting with a GUI pop-up that gives them two options

    Sadly no. They should be nervous if it's about making changes to their system. In reality however Windows conditioned them to just click the button labeled "Yes" or "Okay" without even reading the pop-up in the first place.

    [–] [email protected] 11 points 1 day ago (5 children)

    Let's also not conflate "ease" with historical behavior.

    Taking previous experience out of the equation, it is easier to type apt upgrade and reboot to update your entire system than to click through 300 times in the system and multiple apps with reboots.

    That is a fact.

    [–] [email protected] 15 points 1 day ago

    You don't even need the terminal. There is a interface to update if you are using a DE.

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    [–] [email protected] 25 points 1 day ago (4 children)

    Most normal people are nervous interacting with a GUI pop-up that gives them two options, never mind putting them into a terminal window where they could seriously fuck up their machine

    Maybe this is a problem that we should be addressing, rather than just making technology more of a black box, and raising generations of people who have no fucking concept of how any of it works.

    [–] [email protected] 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

    and raising generations of people who have no fucking concept of how any of it works

    Only two generations were got to be technologically literate.

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    [–] [email protected] 9 points 1 day ago

    Let’s not cherrypick scenarios to try and pretend Linux is easier than Windows. Most normal people are...

    Let's not cherry pick users then. I don't care about your normal users. My experience is better on Linux.

    [–] [email protected] 21 points 1 day ago (3 children)

    Unless you have a system without a GUI, you don't need to open a terminal in order to update or install stuff. There is a GUI for that. And no, you don't need to build stuff from GitHub for normal user stuff..

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    [–] [email protected] 46 points 1 day ago (2 children)

    This applies to pretty much all "Linux good, Win/MacOS bad" memes. I just assume that people either aren't really serious about them and it's just tongue in cheek, or they don't have any contact with regular people.

    I used to work as a(n assistant to the) sysadmin and the things I got called over never stopped to amaze. For instance, there was a case when software was updated on the work machines and I got called because some lady couldn't use Adobe Acrobat. "It is asking me something, I don't know what". I come over and it's just a TOS Accept/Decline window.

    Some people do not understand computers to an extent that they can lock up in a state of confusion when a button has been moved 100px in any direction from its usual position.

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    [–] [email protected] 17 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

    been using linux for a few years both on servers and my pc and I never had to build sth myself

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