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[–] [email protected] -2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 20 hours ago) (6 children)

Toxicity is a big word. What about small long term effects?

Lithium is prohibited in eu outside of psychiatric therapy, too. But it might be an essential nutrient (small doses).

My trust into the official ~~narrative~~ science is limited.

Edit: as the tobacco interest group has proven studies and scientific evidence can be bought. Don’t know why y’all are reacting so allergic

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 days ago

I believe the objection to fluoride is that it is a tranquilizer that keeps us from achieving glory through violent uprising... or sweet sweet dentist profits.

[–] [email protected] 39 points 2 days ago (2 children)

This is a conspiracy by fluoridians.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Thats what the fluoridiots say.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 days ago (3 children)

fluorida man strikes again

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[–] [email protected] 23 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Back when I was in college, people didn't like fluoride because it calcifies the pinneal gland. I assume that rhetoric has only been further exaggerated over the years

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Another point that conspiracy bros will bring up is that fluoride is a toxic byproduct of aluminum manufacture and dumping it into the water supply is a cheap way for Alcoa to dispose of it benevolently.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Honestly it really is sad, we have so many more uses for it

Every atom of fluoride going into our water is another atom that can’t go into chlorine trifluoride production. Putting it into the water is a huge sacrifice we make for the health of society.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Weird. The only argument I heard, and successfully made it to policy in my area is that it costs tax money and takes away choice. All thus smart stuff is for those damn yankees.

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 2 days ago (2 children)

It does do this. However so does ageing, low sunlight exposure, low altitude, ethnicity, sex, nutrition, neuro-divergence, cell phone use, EM fields... you get the idea.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Don't forget the gravitational pull of Betelgeuse. In a very, very small way, that also effects calcification of the pineal gland.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago

(Don't give them ideas...)

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Does fluoride-enhanced water actually do this, though? Or just pure fluoride? Yes, pure fluoride has an effect, but I always thought the miniscule amount in our water is not enough to actually make a difference to the natural calcification of our pineal gland, anyways.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 days ago (2 children)

From what I have read studies do not show it, however it is believed it does happen because, when the data in those studies is extrapolated for 60+ years, it shows that it should contribute to it, at least

So, yeah, seems too, but it really isn't a factor worth worrying about

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[–] [email protected] 41 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Yeah but I read an article on a bullshit website. I think some no name website knows more than a toxicologist

[–] [email protected] 18 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Why is some dumb scientist expert trying to tell me, a person who pays for an internet connection, what the truth is?

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 days ago

Because something something shill money.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Agreed but can we turn down the chloramine valve? It tastes awful.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago

Why not just get a water filter?

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Great post... but where is the meme?

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 days ago

Welcome to Science Memes, where the science isn't memes and the memes aren't about science.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 days ago

The meme is now this is not US policy.

Its like stating the world is not flat... when in fact NASA's official stance is that the world is, indeed, flat.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Without Fluoride all the humour in the world dies.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 days ago (1 children)

How much oatmeal would I have to eat to die of fluoride poisoning?

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

0.08mg per half cup serving, but may vary depending on water used. https://ods.od.nih.gov/factsheets/Fluoride-HealthProfessional/

10mg is the accepted daily upper limit for an adult. So 62.5 cups of oatmeal to reach that max safe limit. https://ods.od.nih.gov/factsheets/Fluoride-Consumer/

Acute poisoning symptoms may appear as low as 10-15 mg/kg, lethal dose might be 32-64 mg/kg. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fluoride_toxicity

So 200 to 400 cups of oatmeal per kg you weigh for a lethal dose. (32/0.08/2=200, 64/0.08/2=400)

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 days ago

That's a lot of oatmeal.

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