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submitted 2 days ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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[+] [email protected] -38 points 1 day ago (1 children)

So miniscule it won't poison you but just enough to prevent tooth decay. You really can't have it both ways. Pretending there is any real control over measurement is also ridiculous. Not to mention there is no need to drink fluoride.

You know what does work? Using fluoride topically and getting good dental care.

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Those are different mechanisms, why can’t they have different concentrations?

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[+] [email protected] -24 points 1 day ago (3 children)

I don't know. I do know fluoride works topically. I also know there is no mechanism in the body to return fluoride to the teeth topically after it is swallowed.

So drinking fluoride is pointless.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)

So you don't know, but all the data scientists and dentists, who DO know and are subject matter experts, who say it's a good idea are to be ignored, because of your sheer ignorance?

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[+] [email protected] -13 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Nobody refutes anything I am saying. I think you are confused.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 day ago (2 children)

We've refuted it, scientific testing has refuted it, you're just plugging your ears and refusing to listen because you don't like the answers.

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[+] [email protected] -11 points 1 day ago (5 children)

I said fluoride works topically. Do you deny this? Please provide evidence to the contrary.

I said there is no way for the body to return fluoride where it is needed. Swallowing fluoride is pointless and unnecessary at best. At worst it is probably not a good idea to have fluoride in your water if you have kidney disease.

Don't bother actually, we already no you know literally nothing about this topic.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago

And because random social media people spout conspiracies about it and clearly they're more educated on the topic than actual trained professionals.

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[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I don’t know.

You don't need to know. Statistically dental health increases when municipal water is fluoridated.

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[+] [email protected] -14 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Having read many studies on this the consensus is it probably does not help much if the population has adequate dental care.

https://www.cochrane.org/news/water-fluoridation-less-effective-now-past

We know what works, dental care and brushing have a huge benefit that is proven.

The idea of giving everyone fluoride in the water supply is pretty retarded really for several reasons.

If it naturally occurs fine, but adding it is ridiculous.

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 day ago (9 children)

Ok, so for the poor people without care in those populations we say fuck them?

The mentally ill that don't do self care?

Fluoridation is providing a baseline. "Does not help much" is a useless statement if that includes everyone with the means for higher levels of care.

There are a bunch of policy decisions that are like this. Yes, it won't help you. Get over it, you aren't the whole city.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

<.< And before it’s swallowed?

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[+] [email protected] -15 points 1 day ago (2 children)

If it is so good to swallow them why not swallow after brushing. Why are you so obsessed with swallowing something that does not help.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Plenty of things we ingest are toxic in high doses, but valuable in smaller amounts.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago

Like everything, including water?

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago

Mm like beer

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Different concentrations. If water is so good for you, why don’t you drink 10 gallons a day?

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[+] [email protected] -9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

So then you admit there is no point in drinking fluoride then? Miniscule amount does not make a difference and the normal topical amount you use while brushing is not safe to swallow.

This isn't rocket science.

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[–] [email protected] -4 points 1 day ago (5 children)

I never met the fellow. I never did the science either.

You all are easily impressed.

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[–] [email protected] -2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

This post written by Big Fluoride.

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[+] [email protected] -12 points 1 day ago (1 children)

That toxic byproduct of fertilizer production is not going to dump itself in our water supply am I riiight?

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Cmon, at least get the byproducts main source correct in your propaganda comment!

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[+] [email protected] -9 points 1 day ago (4 children)

It is a fact, look it up.

https://origins.osu.edu/article/toxic-treatment-fluorides-transformation-industrial-waste-public-health-miracle