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    submitted 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) by [email protected] to c/[email protected]
     
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    [–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago

    Why is Debian more difficult than Fedora? I could understand older versions, but these days they fixed pretty much all the small annoyances. No need to use the "nonfree" iso, because that's integrated into the installer. And post install sudo works as expected out of the box. I'd say they should be equal.

    [–] [email protected] 58 points 3 months ago (6 children)
    [–] [email protected] 17 points 3 months ago

    Like every linux community. Living in a bubble that doesn't exist.

    [–] [email protected] 9 points 3 months ago (1 children)
    [–] [email protected] 11 points 3 months ago (29 children)

    Installing any operating system is often a hassle. This comes in part from my own experience trying to understand the unguided partition recommendations of a Bazzite (basically Fedora on low level) install. I got through it, but it was certainly no easier than Windows.

    [–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (4 children)

    This isn't true. Try Linux Mint or Ubuntu, their installers are much better. Those installers used by Fedora, RedHat, and even SUSE can be a bit weird.

    They specifically say unbloated Windows as well which while it's not as difficult as they make out is still somewhat annoying.

    I've recently had a Windows installer fail to see my NVMe drives until I changed some random UEFI setting because it was missing a driver. Linux could see it just fine, as could Hirens boot.

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    [–] [email protected] 13 points 3 months ago (3 children)

    Installing regular Windows 10/11 is definitely more than twice as painful than installing Debian 12.

    Once, I was trying to install Windows 10 and wasted an entire day! The installation would systematically fail at the beginning of the installation with a BS error message that doesn't give any hint about what's going wrong. In the end it just didn't like USB3 as an installation media! I reflashed it to a USB2 and it worked, but OMG was it super slow ! It took literally hours to install !!!

    Debian, even as a noobie, you'll go from flashing your ISO to a booted system within an hour. If you've done it once before, you will get it done in 20 minutes.

    [–] [email protected] 7 points 3 months ago (1 children)

    What the hell. I've never seen such an issue. Microsoft is so considerate; they provide us with cool little surprises like that from time to time. β™₯️

    [–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

    I've seen it a lot (I do PC builds/repairs as a side gig). I just assume it will cause me grief from the start and keep both USB2 and USB3 sticks handy.

    To be fair I've had the issue with Unraid too, but only on one brand's B450 motherboards in my testing. I didn't have a whole bunch to try of course but MSI and Asus was fine, Gigabyte not. X570 didn't have this problem in my experience.

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    [–] [email protected] 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

    Arch is probably easier to install than Debian nowadays.

    [–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

    No.

    Debian takes a few clicks and you have a working desktop.

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    [–] [email protected] 10 points 3 months ago (3 children)

    Installing debloated windows is not difficult at all.

    [–] [email protected] 9 points 3 months ago (4 children)

    And how difficult is it to keep it debloated? MS seems to be hellbent on pushing their crap into everyone's face.

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    [–] [email protected] 5 points 3 months ago

    I would say it is, it's extra installation steps. Fedora I just click a handful of buttons and the OS is installed with no Spyware

    [–] [email protected] 5 points 3 months ago

    Its called Installing linux.

    [–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago

    Hey! You missed nixos!

    First time install for smb. Double the windows Bar.

    Second time (if you backed up your config file)

    No bar!

    [–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)
    [–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago

    Have you installed it recently? They fixed the common annoyances like missing nonfree drivers.

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