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PieFed, a FOSS Feed Aggregator alternative to Lemmy, but faster (join.piefed.social)
submitted 5 months ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]
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Welcome to a new era of interconnected content discussion with PieFed – a link aggregator, a forum, a hub of social interaction and information, built for the fediverse. Our focus is on individual control, safety, and decentralised power.

Like other platforms in the fediverse, we are a self-governed space for social link aggregation and conversation. We operate without the influence of corporate entities – ensuring that your experience is free of advertisements, invasive tracking, or secret algorithms. On our platform, content is grouped into communities, allowing you to engage with topics of interest and disregard the irrelevant ones. We utilise a voting system to highlight the best content.

Video introduction the codebase

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Does it support importing Lemmy subscriptions?

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago (5 children)

Can I access it via Eternity app? Is it basically another instance?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 5 months ago (1 children)

It's not compatible with apps yet, unfortunately.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 5 months ago (4 children)

Though there's a feature request for that where [email protected] said that he would be excited to work on!:-)

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 5 months ago

Private votes sounds pretty cool

[–] [email protected] 42 points 5 months ago (6 children)

Hello from Piefed! I was a regular on Lemmy and Mastodon for years, but I migrated to Piefed because it is much more lightweight.

The features page shows some differences between Piefed and Lemmy - https://join.piefed.social/features/ Mostly, I appreciate that it is written in Python, so more developers in the community may easily understand and contribute to the code base, and that it is so lightweight. When I connect to the internet I always have to consider data caps, so it's a relief when websites make a genuine effort to be efficient. I can reliably browse the fediverse through Piefed even when my access is throttled to 50Kbps download.

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I would curious to see if you could access piefed using Voyager for Lemmy as a front end. It’s about the only decent app for Lemmy that doesn’t squash things on my iPhone mini with text zoom enabled

[–] [email protected] 7 points 5 months ago (4 children)

You can't, no. PieFed and Lemmy are operating in similar spaces, but are completely different architecturally. PieFed doesn't yet have an API. Unlike Lemmy (and a lot of other modern web platforms), it doesn't need one to operate, so copying Lemmy's to the extent that you'd be able to plug in something like Voyager would be overkill. It would probably also be against the TOS for Voyager (Jerboa actively prevents it's use with anything other than Lemmy, even if the API is the same).

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 5 months ago (3 children)

Curious to see if people haven't heard about it, Piefed seems to be mentioned quite often

[–] [email protected] 16 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

Tbf you're on Lemmy 24/7 so you'll hear about things much earlier than many others. I've also been on Piefed for a minute.

But I've come to understand how slowly knowledge propagates through large numbers of people, at least via this medium. First with the APIcaplyse, when I realized that virtually nobody on reddit had even heard of the API changes, let alone moving to Lemmy. And then on Lemmy itself with various major events/dramas that people were totally unaware of until much later.

Piefed is developing rapidly and seems like a worthy alternative to Lemmy and Mbin. The private voting feature is also really cool.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 5 months ago (1 children)

No need to be on Lemmy that much, just watching [email protected] you would see Piefed mentioned every week

Same here, on [email protected]

[–] [email protected] 8 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I'm on Lemmy all the time and I didn't know that community. But thanks for sharing, this is what I'm talking about.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago

I'm on Lemmy all the time

Seeding a new spot takes work

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago (2 children)

So is it a fork of Lemmy?

[–] [email protected] 18 points 5 months ago (1 children)

it's inspired by lemmy but seeks to addres; community concerns stemming from that programming is a form of communication and the things the lemmy project owners value as messaging are vile

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I'm not sure what that even means. Does that mean it's right wing? If software can even be right wing or left wing.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

Two of the developers are scary communist tankies. And no, I don't think software can be right wing or left wing. Maybe if it's centralized, like X, but the developers of Lemmy can't interfere with Lemmy servers they don't admin, and it's open source (lots of other people contribute to the Lemmy source code at this point and so would be able to spot things added in).

Personally, I think the right way to advertise other competitors on the fediverse isnt to fear monger about the developers, but to say what features the alternatives have that might be good. Also, it is nice to have competitors, so also just to advertise based on the availability of alternative options, since it is nice to have those just in case.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 months ago (7 children)

The Lemmy devs? I'm aware of this. I'm a right winger and that doesn't affect me nearly as much as the far left communities of Lemmy users.

The features are all I care about. Eventually I'll find the right people here and be able to build the communities I want.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 months ago (2 children)

They must have been talking about the Lemmy devs (the main PieFed dev is a lefty but no-one has ever accused him of being a tankie). To give you an idea: piefed.social blocks lemmygrad and hexbear, but it also block hilariouschaos (set up by the old exploding-heads guys).

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago

hilariouschaos (set up by the old exploding-heads guys)

...really? I always got the impression that the admin is some teenage girl

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Ooh I didn't know that the exploding-heads guy did anything else.

Why block instances though? I've never been a fan of that, I just let people block me.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I couldn't really do justice to his opinions about things like that. I just replied because I recognised your name, and wanted to let you know that the software / instance wouldn't be a good fit for you.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago

Well, IDK. I'm right wing. Exploding Heads definitely at least leaned right, and found myself arguing with those people a lot of the time, but I do prefer right wing lunacy to left wing lunacy most of the time.

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[–] [email protected] 59 points 5 months ago (5 children)

I believe one of the killer features is the ability to aggregate different communities.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago

Finally! That is a great feature!

[–] [email protected] 14 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Multi-communities? Really? 😍

[–] [email protected] 15 points 5 months ago (8 children)

Yes really. Here's an example - see the communities at the top, and hashtags at the bottom.

On second thought, that's not a fantastic example of categories, so here and here are better ones.

There's a lot that is not yet implemented in PieFed, like no preview feature for writing messages or user tagging (e.g. @[email protected] does not send me a notification), yet it already has several features that Lemmy does not - it's so exciting to watch it develop!:-)

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[–] [email protected] 28 points 5 months ago (3 children)

Faster?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 months ago

And uses less data - helpful for using a mobile data plan. Those numbers shown in the article are all the more impressive even for sending 5x more posts on the home screen than Lemmy's default, even while still sending >4/5 less data - i.e. it's more like sending roughly only 1/25th the data per post, if I'm reading that right.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 5 months ago (2 children)

In my experience it's very snappy, and with minimal JavaScript (if at all). Hell, it's even somewhat usable in Lynx, though I couldn't sign in.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

I can log in with lynx... It sets a few cookies and then I'm logged in... Though I haven't tried signing up, if you mean sign up as in register a new account.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago

Might have been a user error then! Admittedly I did not try very hard.

There's also a low bandwidth mode available. It's an impressive platform in general.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 5 months ago

Lynx - Now that's a name I have not heard in a long long time.

[–] [email protected] 41 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Speed is literally not even a concern, the only thing I want more of is people. Make it easier to sign up or something

[–] [email protected] 10 points 5 months ago

Federation speed is a serious backbone concern. It aligns with perceived reliability. If it seems like comments votes or posts aren't "going where they're supposed to" then people can lose faith in the platform

[–] [email protected] 22 points 5 months ago

I mean it connects to lemmy, kinda like mbin.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 5 months ago

mahn kbin is dead. long live mbin. at least use more recent stats

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