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[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 minutes ago

"i don't have anything to hide" mfs when their passwords get leaked:

[–] [email protected] 7 points 28 minutes ago

There’s worse.

They already know everything about me anyways. If I can exchange my data for some free and easy to use service, I’m more than happy to give.

I hate defeatism.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 hour ago

Damn, how did you get three complete troglodytes in one place?

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 hour ago

The claim to have "nothing to hide" was not just born our of ignorance, but also out of comfort - to not having to do anything about it.

Now that even the last one accepted that they do indeed have something to hide, but in order to justify their own inaction, it's labeled as inevitable: privacy is not real.

They are lying to themselves, because doing otherwise would mean they have to admit being wrong.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

~~Normies~~ bots

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 hours ago

An excuse to still be right.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 hours ago

Off-topic, but I do agree in general that Edge is a solid browser. I use it when I'm at work and really love the vertical tabs and tab groups. I use firefox for personal use and am patiently waiting for the vertical tabs on the stable release (and not just in about:config).

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago) (1 children)

I do fall into that way of thinking sometimes and in discussions and such, but even then, i still take steps to maintain a level of privacy. It's for stupid reasons, I'm admittedly not knowledgeable whatsoever on data privacy. (As in, why is it necessary since we already carry a lot of data collection devices with us as we go around that I know most people dont even think about.) But it makes me just feel better, I guess.

Most of my friends have actually moved away from Firefox to more tailored browsers like opera, which i think is much worse in terms of data protection. (again, uninformed. It's just something I've seen thrown around, feel free to correct me if that's wrong.) At times, it really is quite easy to start thinking like the people highlighted in the post. I'm 22, and have a degree in computer science. There was a module on data security, but it was mostly focussed on data leaks and encryption methods rather than the 'philosophy' on why data protection is important. Even in the final year of uni, people were being quite flippant with it.

It's probably just a cultural shift, as more and more companies collect mass amounts of user data, people gradually get more comfortable with the idea I guess. Especially with gen alpha, who are born into a world where it's just a fact that all companies are actively farming your data. To them, it's not something to be concerned about whatsoever. There was never a time in which they had privacy, especially since they are introduced to technology before they can even speak, write, or remember.

What I've put above is mostly just waffle honestly, but I hope it provides something to someone LMAO.

Edit to add stuff: I guess to make the point more obvious, for younger generations it's because privacy just isn't real for them.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 minutes ago

Hopefully the Trump presidency is a wake up call in the importance of privacy. As we slowly move towards fascism, privacy becomes more important than ever.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 13 minutes ago)

Never say privacy. Always say libre software. That's why.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Get off Reddit. Karma grind is not worth it.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Agree, I am primarily on lemmy now. People here are way nicer to each other than Reddit

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

People here are way nicer to each other than Reddit

If one has the right kind of opinions. 🤷

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 hour ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 hour ago

Maybe the communites that I am in is too wholesome ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[–] [email protected] 28 points 3 hours ago (3 children)

A lot of people have just accepted surviellance for convienience.

People close to me get TSA precheck even though it requires fingerprinting, because "the government already has your fingerprints"

But if they did, why would they need to ask your for them?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 55 minutes ago

Sorry for devil's advocate here because I agree with you but hypothetically the answer would be verification. ie., Google already has your password, so why would they need to ask you for it when you log in?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 hour ago

Depending on what people do, the government already has their fingerprints.

Personally, I work around schools so I had to get a background check and fingerprinted for that. I also am licensed to handle explosives, both federally and at the state level. I been fingerprinted for that. I've gone through TSA for hazmat endorsement on a commercial driver's license. That needed fingerprints and a background check.

Getting fingerprinted to get through airport security is the least of my privacy concerns.

But my threat model isn't the TSA. They aren't a concern of mine, although I do opt out of their facial recognition.

I am concerned with internet surveillance, corporate surveillance, and communication surveillance.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 hour ago

If you’ve gone to jail they totally have your prints already. Fingerprints are identifying information for such a thing. How else would they do that?

[–] [email protected] 14 points 3 hours ago

"If people say edge is bad they should consider thinking about your windows 11 os lol"

[–] [email protected] 9 points 4 hours ago

The op in that post is 14 years old at most. Just look at how that shot is tailored.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 4 hours ago

"hello i am u/NotBillGates and I agree with this message"

[–] [email protected] 49 points 6 hours ago (2 children)

but it was trash at loading html websites

as opposed to websites written in excel 2003 format or what

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 minutes ago

there are many more type of websites, other than html

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 hours ago

Bro's from the timeline where Flash became the dominant species.

[–] [email protected] 43 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

html websites

These aren't normies. They're children.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 3 hours ago

This honestly reads like a bad commercial you'd hear on the radio.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

A similar argument I hear is "If they want me, they will find and arrest me no matter my precautions".

Kinda yes... But why are you talking about threat models that include someone deliberately hunting you down? We are not high-ranking dissidents or criminals that they would put effort and money into finding. Our concern is passive surveillance - maybe the collected info doing us a disservice (like being leaked for scammers or sold to an evil ex), maybe even something mundane getting flagged and us being arrested just to serve as an example.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

e.g. Period tracking apps being used as evidence when prosecuting people who seek abortions

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 minutes ago

those can be open-source and selfhosted, no?

[–] [email protected] 31 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Is it me or do those comments feel very shill-like?

[–] [email protected] 17 points 6 hours ago

Yes some subreddit is piviting hard captalism recently, giving up their dignity to defend corporations with their life.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

laughs with my GraphineOS pixel and librewolf and Alpine on my librebooted Thinkpad

(Obviously you don't need to start where I'm at but everyone's goal should be to eventually become as secure as reasonably possible)

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 hours ago (2 children)

I just want RISC-V and open drivers on everything.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 minutes ago

then you can forget any compatibility, but you know. I think privacy needs to be sensible, and it should not go in such ranges that highly limits usablity

[–] [email protected] 1 points 19 minutes ago

Same, I wish all technology was shared and open :3

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 hours ago

Trust in privacy, fight against GAMAM!

[–] [email protected] 9 points 8 hours ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 hours ago

Copium indeed

[–] [email protected] 6 points 7 hours ago

Microsoft Edge, based on Google's Copium engine-

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