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[–] [email protected] 2 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago) (11 children)

anti imperialist/colonial supporters when they find out that the entire timeline of human history is conquest, colonialism, and imperialism.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 14 hours ago (2 children)

It absolutely is, but my take on that is we're just bad at doing community-based government and need more practice.

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[–] [email protected] 24 points 19 hours ago (2 children)

I also noted this was a problem with the Rebel Alliance (who just supports a republic of oligarchs), and was called a centrist for my efforts.

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[–] [email protected] 39 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

It's something that really bothers me about communism and socialism being derisive in the US, even in 2024, about 35 years after USSR fell.

The alternative to community-centric society is autocracy, typically devolving into monarchism.

Death to monarchists!

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 21 hours ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 5 points 20 hours ago

IMPERIVM SINE FINE

[–] [email protected] 9 points 20 hours ago

We conquering Cartage with this one 🔥🔥🔥

[–] [email protected] 33 points 1 day ago (13 children)

Tankies support the more problematic empires such as Russia and China.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

I wonder why a westerner who gets their news from english speaking western sources which profit off of the same wealth extraction as the empire they are part of would think like this? Surely the western free press would not be influenced by the whims of capital and empire. Obviously China and Russia must be the "worse empire", my empire told me so!

[–] [email protected] 5 points 15 hours ago

Well, just personally speaking, I know Russian, and reading Russian news sources (state-owned as well as those that have been banned by the Russian state) from time to time, and talking with Russians directly, hasn't even remotely convinced me that the "Russian empire" is equally bad as the "western empire".

[–] [email protected] 14 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

And in doing so they may have pushed large parts of the Chinese-American community to the right. Tankies caping for the CCP were not a good look for the moderate immigrants who had been fucked over by the Chinese government in various ways.

[–] [email protected] -5 points 17 hours ago

"moderate" immigrants from China don't exist. You can't be moderate between two entirely different and incompatible socioeconomic systems.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

Did you not read the meme? Imperialism is bad no matter who is doing it, and arguing over which empire is more 'problematic' is counterproductive, as we should oppose all empires instead of wasting all of our time and effort on getting on each other's throats.

[–] [email protected] -4 points 19 hours ago

true, being rude to other people is bad. We should stop being rude and criminalize it.

wait...

[–] [email protected] 7 points 21 hours ago

You're just repeating the meme.

They are all bad, they are all part of the problems we face globally, and whatabouting "them" to avoid facing criticism of "us" only serves those in power by deflecting criticism of them.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Max Stirner? In my 196? I'm for it.

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[–] [email protected] 66 points 1 day ago (2 children)

That's why I don't support governments or countries, I support people and anarchist liberation movements :3

[–] [email protected] 24 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

Exactly! I'm so tired of being accused of being a liberal and/or a fascist every single time I note that China or Russia isn't some perfect leftist utopia, but in fact just another empire that is a pain in the ass not only to other countries but also their own citizens.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 20 hours ago (3 children)

China is a fascist ethnostate, Russia is another neoliberal capitalist state, North Korea IMO cannot be described as socialist, Vietnam is pretty cool but mixed and only partially socialist, Cuba is not great tbh just in general, Venezuela is horrible, the Nordic states are just Social Democrat states, Israel has multiple worker co-ops but that doesn't change the fact that they're still a genocidal ethnostate, that just about covers all the tankie countries.

[–] [email protected] -4 points 17 hours ago (23 children)

If you think China is fascist, you're brainwashed. There isnt another explanation for thinking the most democratic nation currently on the planet is fascist.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 15 hours ago (3 children)

the most democratic nation currently on the planet

Sorry, but I didn't see anyone mention Denmark or Norway anywhere in this thread.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Why would anyone mention racist petrocountries that are essentially Saudi Arabia but white?

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Israel is a tankie country now? Don't they support Palestine? Let's not rob tankies of their only correct opinion!

[–] [email protected] -2 points 14 hours ago (7 children)

Kinda how they believe Chinas genocide is justified Tankies have no real problem with genocide

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 18 hours ago

Russia has long reached the end state of neoliberal capitalism, fascism. The US is currently transitioning.

[–] [email protected] 44 points 1 day ago (3 children)
[–] [email protected] 5 points 21 hours ago

Hate your state

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 day ago

Peace, Justice, and Anarchy

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 day ago

Only bad dragons 😉

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