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User tags are going to be so useful. Keep up the good work, @[email protected]!

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 57 minutes ago)

~~i don't see this and the app is updated :'3~~

nvm it's still experimental for now

[–] [email protected] 13 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

In my mind, Voyager was always on the forefront with features compared to other Lemmy clients. I'm surprised it took this long to implement this!

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Still, nothing but grateful for the Voyager devs.

I know Christian (the OG Apollo Dev) was not happy about Voyager, but their work has been stellar imo. Loving the work, and keep it up.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 minutes ago

Other than sounding a bit annoyed that the UI was identical, did Christian express further unhappiness? Love(d) both apps

[–] [email protected] 36 points 4 hours ago

I mean Voyager is like 15 billion miles from Earth and has been operating since the 70s. The Apollo program was very impressive but was discontinued decades ago.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Just enabled tags, but I'm not really clear, what are tags?

[–] [email protected] 22 points 4 hours ago (2 children)

To tag someone, click their username to go to their user page. Then click the three dots in the top right corner and then select "edit tag."

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 hours ago (2 children)

Neat.

I'm also seeing numbers next to some people's name. It looks like its tracking net "karma" for the user? But its obviously not accurate (you have a [+4] as of writing).

Is that related to tagging?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 hours ago (2 children)

That number should be how the total of upvotes and downvotes you have personally given that user. Useful for finding who to block when you see a troll comment and realize that nearly every comment you've seen from that user has been a waste of your time.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 36 minutes ago

I feel triggered by this entire sub-chat. My comments are half flippant, half heckle, half earnest and actual, half pedantic, half questioning, and no math (clearly).

Point is, I'm gonna offend people and their judgement will be sticky. What if my first impression is for a dickish reminder about mass nouns or a jab against the GqP? I love this part.

Please tell me there's a tag that says "80% horseshit but occasionally a mild zinger or honest comment" to put up near my name. We all can't be consistently awesome like FlyingSquid !

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 hours ago

Ooooo, now thats neat. Yeah, def gonna flip that one back on.

Really appreciate the info.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 hours ago

Yep! But if you'd like to disable it just go to Settings > User Tags > and toggle off "Track Votes"

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago) (1 children)

Or I can just hold (E: long press) your handle on the comment and do that from here. It's supposed to track from which comment you did that as well but I never tested it.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

Oooh, you're right! I didn't realize that worked as well. Thanks!

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 hours ago (4 children)

there is no push notification and widget like original Apollo

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 hours ago

TIL iOS finally got widget support a few years ago

[–] [email protected] 9 points 4 hours ago (2 children)

I think lemmy doesn't currently support push notifications so the app would have to stay awake in the background to check for them

[–] [email protected] 1 points 33 minutes ago

It's neat how the receipt and storage of push 'notes could easily leverage the short-message idea in the original sendmail spec.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 hours ago (2 children)

You don’t need to have the app running in the background. Notifications can be pushed from the cloud.

Problem is, that costs money to host and run that job to check for notifications. This is why a lot of small developers end up burying notifications behind a paywall.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 hour ago

So then β€žburyβ€œ it behind a paywall, why is that bad? A server costs money so let the people who want to use that server pay their part. I see no problem with that.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

I mean yeah, but hosting and running a voyager server that stores our login credentials would be a more complicated and difficult option for what gain? The simplest solution would probably be just waking up the app every so often to check, I think eternity does that

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

Speaking for iOS, I don’t believe this is possible. iOS has rules around what background processes can and can’t run on-device.

For notifications coming from the internet, in order to preserve battery life, Apple wants cloud APNs to wake up terminated apps to deliver notifications.

I know android does some similar battery preservation stuff around notifications, but I’m a little less familiar with that.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

Meh, I bought Ultra lifetime after a few months of using Apollo and never even bothered using push notifications. Which is funny, because it was the main thing I missed when I originally switched from Android and RiF in 2020. Voyager is FOSS so it's understandable that there won't be push notifications, as that require servers which cost money, and it also introduces potential security issues. User tags on the other hand, were something Apollo sorely needed, and the dev never got around to it.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Push notification cost money iirc.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Push requires having a server to push those notifications. That requires having an entire Voyager server that stores your credentials and periodically checks for new notifications, sending them when it gets them.

Money, yes, but also an issue with having a third party server storing credentials.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 hours ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 hours ago

I’m not super familiar with UnifiedPush, but it seems like you still need a server to send those notifications. Unless the Lemmy instances themselves start sending them, they have to come from somewhere.