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[–] [email protected] 5 points 7 hours ago

is also decentralized and is federated, meaning it is moving toward a future where users “own” their audiences and can port them elsewhere (you can, and many do, argue about the details here, and about the differences between ActivityPub, which Mastodon uses, and the AT Protocol, which Bluesky uses).

Best coverage yet for that alone

[–] [email protected] 12 points 7 hours ago

I'm really enjoying Bluesky strangely enough, not normally my thing.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 7 hours ago (2 children)

Whhhhhhy?

This is the same thing. This is the exact same type of platform that will eventually go the same way. This is shooting yourself in the foot once, then aiming the shotgun at the other foot and pulling the trigger thinking that the bullet was a fluke the first time.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 7 hours ago (3 children)

To be fair Musk buying twitter and turning it into a Nazi propaganda site was kind of flukey.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago) (1 children)

Was it though?

A billionaire buys or funds a privately owned platform and does with it as he pleases, despite the obviously humanitarian route being something different. Have we really never seen that before?

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 7 hours ago

Twitter was already really bad, Musk just brought back the Nazis and fired all the people that were the guardrails.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 hours ago (3 children)

I don't know. Lots of folks pointing out That Part Of Twitter (TPOT) also migrating over.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 hours ago (3 children)

On Bluesky anyone who really hates TPOT can make a block list that anyone can subscribe to and you never have to think of it again. You can also easily flag accounts to include on the list.

If TPOT moved en masse to Mastodon, across many different instances, how would someone achieve the same thing? My understanding is they don’t have any similar feature. As long as “just block them all individually or hope they all move to one shitty instance you can block” is the solution, it’s going to fail to attract people.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 7 hours ago

luckily bluesky has strong moderation tools and community managed block listn, so you can totally limit the voices of those folk

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Meaning like the rationalist / effective altruism guys? Would have thought they'd be prone to sticking with Musk

[–] [email protected] 5 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

The postrat folk. The deep value Silicon Valley folk. Core Techbro kind of people.

Would have thought they'd be prone to sticking with Musk

Ditto, but at the same time. Being with daddy Musk might be too traditional at this point. No idea the reasons, but you can to see a lot of this popping up in that circle on Twitter.

TPOT → Bluesky is actually an interesting example of what looks like a successful transplantation... quasi-existential concerns about Elon Twitter, vibes have been off leading to big cascades of migration tend to happen after inciting incidents (eg twitter banning substack links being a canary in the coal mine)

You know the "I sound super thoughtful" kind of stuff. Lots of praise from that Group on XTwitter/Bluesky.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Interesting. As with any problematic group that makes the transition it's a bit annoying to have to deal with them on the new platform, but they shouldn't be banned and them moving is a great sign that bluesky has the juice.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 hours ago

Yeah, something got in their crawl and Bluesky is on low key TPOT rising.

Someone did a post on it, you can see the map that was done in the picture there with TPOT in blue.

I don't know why they started coalescing on Bluesky, but it is what it is. If they get annoying there, I know how to mute them. But as long as that doesn't also herald the "free speech absolutists" that literally add zero value, I'm cool with TPOT heading to Bluesky.

Besides, I'm more active on Fedi/Mastodon at this point than Threads/Bluesky so it's not really a pressing thing for me. I mean shit, I wouldn't have a problem with Musk's network if he'd clamp down on the utter trash going on over there. Like it's gotten to pure garbage, I haven't the time to block everyone who pops into my feeds that how hard the algo there is pushing the trash.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 7 hours ago

Anything which drives nails into the xitter coffin is a good thing as far as I'm concerned. Bluesky may not tick many people's boxes here on lemmy, but this migration shows that lots of people wanted to leave xitter but didn't see an option. Threads clearly didn't attract them, likely due to the owner. I hope it nothing else, Bluesky is a less toxic place and xitter and musk become less relevant. In the long run Bluesky may end up being another head of the hydra , but for now, it's not, and it may get people used to the idea of federation.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 7 hours ago

It's venture capital. Eventually it will stop being open source and will enshitify just like every other platform. So nothing is changing long term in my opinion.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 7 hours ago (2 children)

Someone has to do a mastodon instance called Bluesky

[–] [email protected] 5 points 7 hours ago
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[–] [email protected] 11 points 7 hours ago (4 children)

Anybody recommend a good mastodon instance?

[–] [email protected] 12 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago) (1 children)

Pick any instance that suits your interests: https://joinmastodon.org/en/servers There is also this picker.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 hours ago (2 children)

This is really cool, it helped me find an instance that specializes in shitposting, much appreciated!

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

I'm on Fedia.io

Which is both Fediverse and Mastodon.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 7 hours ago (3 children)

Which is both Fediverse and Mastodon.

Well… yeah.

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[–] [email protected] 74 points 7 hours ago (6 children)

I like Jason but he completely missed the boat on this one.

The active migration away from social media networks that are owned, controlled by, and distorted by the richest men and most powerful companies in the world to a decentralized platform that is not owned and controlled by billionaires is one of the more hopeful things to happen in what has largely been a bleak year for the human internet as AI slop infects everything and billionaires put their thumbs on the scale of what we see on social media.

He says this and yet jumps to Bluesky, a platform created by Jack Dorsey and now owned and managed by a crypto bro? You don't need powers of prophecy to see where Bluesky is headed.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 7 hours ago

Honestly I don't know what's up with the mass delusion about Bluesky being oligarch-free. It's understandable that most don't know or haven't looked into it, but then some folks that should know better are displaying the same ignorance.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago) (11 children)

It’s very telling that all across lemmy this is being celebrated. Looks like most people completely missed the point.

I don’t myself like mastodon very much, but if you came to lemmy to stick it to the man it’s a bit silly to cheer on the next man, which is what bluesky is.

Twitter will remain a place for the Right and nut job grifters , probably absorb truth social and the others. bluesky will become the place for liberals and centrists who jerk each other off because they have a degree and gay friends and think they are enlightened.

Sorry , nobody asked for that rant .

[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 hours ago

Small steps

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 7 hours ago

He says this and yet jumps to Bluesky, a platform created by Jack Dorsey and now owned and managed by a crypto bro?

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[–] [email protected] 36 points 8 hours ago (2 children)

The CEO of Bluesky just posted they hit 17M users today after hitting 16M in the last 24 hours.

The juice is juicin'.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Threads, Blue Sky and Mastodon are at 292.8m mau vs Twitter’s 304m

[–] [email protected] 5 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Sure, but what percentage of users are bots on twitter at this point?

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