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[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 hours ago

DNC rigged their primary in favor of Hillary in 2016 and fucked him over AGAIN in 2020 when Obama made a phone call urging both Klobuchar and Buttigeg to drop and endorse Biden. They fucked themselves and the rest of the country twice (now three times) in a row. They're done as a party, many moved Independent and will remain there for the rest of their lives unless the Dems get their shit together.

[–] [email protected] -5 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Bernie was on every ballot. I voted for him, twice. The fact that he didn't win means nothing more than he didn't win. He had the opportunity, the voters simply didn't vote for him.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

He would have won in the general. The primary is not reflective of the general electorate. This is the whole point.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Maybe so, but Democrats didn't turn out to vote for him in the primary, even though they had every opportunity to do so, in every single state. Kinda makes your whole point moot.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

this is exactly the kind of attitude that lets trump win repeatedly.

'yeah yeah, we know you don't want the candidate we're pushing but you don't get a choice.'

then 20 million people stay home.

great fucking job. Meanwhile Sanders would have won, EITHER ELECTION. great. fucking. work.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 hours ago

Maybe, but it's all academic if we don't have the power to get him nominated. I am reminded of a quip: "We elect people without power and we're surprised that they're powerless to change things". That is the best case scenario if the DNC had somehow nominated Bernie. We need to build power, no matter what our strategy or objective. Highly recommend reading this over doom posting: https://wagingnonviolence.org/2024/11/10-things-to-do-if-trump-wins/

[–] [email protected] -3 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Bernie is older than Biden.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Trump is older than Kamala

So what's your point🤷

[–] [email protected] -2 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Biden was criticized for being too old. Bernie is 83.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

The main crux of the “Biden is too old” criticism though wasn’t the actual age number, it was that he wasn’t mentally all there, which was on display constantly. Bernie always comes off as put together and his speeches are well executed. Biden’s issue was that he sounded less put together than Trump which was impressive in its own way

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 hours ago

So bad for Biden but ok for Bernie. Got it.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 hours ago

Yet, he literally, didn't win....

[–] [email protected] -1 points 8 hours ago

or any more true.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 8 hours ago

Yet, he literally, didn't win....

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