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Trump’s Pick to Lead U.S. Military Has Tattoos Linked to White Supremacists and Nazis (www.democracynow.org)

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 minutes ago

putin claims to hate nazis. hmm.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 hour ago

This is what USA actually is.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 hour ago (2 children)

Yeah, the news-media is salivating on all the clicks it's receiving right now.

Almost if it's benefiting them that Trump was elected. Hmm.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 hour ago

Couldn't possibly be gaslighting the country about a mentally incapacitated incumbent until 2 months from the election

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 hour ago

Might as well make the most of it before they get censored lol.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 hours ago

Miller and this guy. Two confirmed Nazis... this is going to end up great. /s

[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Are we surprised?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 28 minutes ago

No.

[+] [email protected] -26 points 2 hours ago (4 children)

The Iron Cross goes all the way back to the state of Prussia. Long before the Nazi's. There are probably so many reason to criticize this guy that will cause productive conversation that can be used to have a better informed voting class. Just screaming racist because of tattoo is just silly and makes no one take you seriously.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 17 minutes ago

"The guy officially cited for his extremist views with the big gigantic Nazi tattoos who was just put into power by a self-described dictator deserves the benefit of a doubt"

Absolutely not.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 23 minutes ago

The 4th what bud?

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago) (1 children)

I'm sorry what?!

That level of disingenuous knot tying is utterly baffling.

You know damn well that after WW2, all of those symbols ostensibly became inextricably linked with the Nazi party. Its the same reason a Swastika no longer automatically conjures images of Hindu and Buddhist peace.

Pretending that its possible that this idiot is somehow repping his pride of Wilhelm II and the glorious Prussian history is so unbelievably intellectually dishonest that it actually somehow manages to be even worse than being flat out racist.

At least Racists are honest. This...whatever this idiotic attempt at obsfucation was that you just shat into our lives is just pedantry that even racists would mock you for.

[+] [email protected] -16 points 1 hour ago (4 children)

Just keep calling everyone Nazi. See how much it helps. Backing people into a corner and forcing this label onto them is only going to make them adapt the label and become the very thing you hate.
76 million people voted for Trump. Calling them names is not going to move the needle. Like what do you expect you call them Nazi and then they beg for forgiveness and then go read a Bernie Sanders book?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 15 minutes ago

Just keep calling everyone Nazi. See how much it helps.

Nazi 🫵

[–] [email protected] 2 points 57 minutes ago

FYI you can call a Nazi a Nazi. It's fine.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 57 minutes ago

They already are the thing I hate. They tattooed symbols of murder and genocide on themselves.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago) (1 children)

I'm not calling everyone a Nazi.

I'm saying the guy with tattoos on his chest of symbols that have been associated with Nazis since the late 1930s is 99.99999% likely to be a Nazi and not a long lost member of Prussian nobility.

Pretending that because there's a .0000001% chance that his tattoos aren't Nazi inspired just because Prussia existed, is purposeful pedantry, which IMO is worse than outright racism.

See, you're not stupid. You're the worst kind of person. Your not smart. But your not stupid. You have just enough trivia in your head that you can muddle any argument with pedantry just enough that stupid people might read it and think... "hmmm....maybe it WAS a Prussia tattoo." even though you know damn well that a .0000001% chance is as good as 0%. It's dishonest, it's immoral, and it takes advantage of people who don't have the critical thinking skills to call out your bullshit. You are worse than racists because at least racists are honest about it.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

I think it’s more the point of do you believe that this person who has the tattoos has them because of the possible history before the Nazis and what it represented or because the Nazis co-opted the symbol for their purposes and he’s representing their ideals.

While it may be true that there are other reasons to also criticize, I believe those who think the latter would take it seriously. I have more trouble believing someone in this day and age has the tattoos to represent the historical aspect of the symbol.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 4 hours ago

Reminds me of Putin and his buddy Dmitry Utkin, initial founder of the Wagner mercenary group with multiple tattoos that show the symbol of the Waffen-SS, as well as other Nazi symbols.

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2023/8/28/who-was-dmitry-utkin-a-key-wagner-mercenary-who-died-alongside-prigozhin

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