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The static on old CRT TVs with rabbit ears was the cosmic microwave background. No one in the last 25 years has ever seen it.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 hours ago

2007er here, I grew up with a CRT as the TV in our second living room, I'd occasionally watch stuff like Bob the builder and others, but since it was all on analog tv, channels started displaying lots of static, pretty much only like 2 or 3 channels were working last I saw.

Also we had that CRT TV until 2018, then chucked it in the store room, then threw it out in 2020, I kinda miss it, kinda don't, idk.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 hours ago

People born after 2000 can see it on their phones, much more clearly:

[–] [email protected] 3 points 13 hours ago

You mean scrambled porn, right?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago)

uhhh, yes i have? I'm pretty sure some of my younger cousins have lol

[–] [email protected] 7 points 14 hours ago

They haven't?

I have a TV from ~2010 that still gives me static when something isn't connected.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago)

If they ever watch Poltergeist they'll know it's the TV people trying to get out.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 15 hours ago

Well, if they had watched any HBO show, they kind of saw it !

[–] [email protected] 3 points 15 hours ago

I still see it sometimes when connecting my Steam Deck to my TV

[–] [email protected] 2 points 15 hours ago

Dude Flatscreen HDTVs were expensive even in 2008, and cable actually got worse for higher price so most people were hooked into local broadcast.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 15 hours ago

The sky above the port was the colour of television, tuned to a dead channel...........

[–] [email protected] 33 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

People born before 2000 think older technology just evaporated the minute the millenium ticked over.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago) (1 children)

Like when the black and white world suddenly got colorized! My grandpap told me about them old days - when the lawn, the sidewalk and the sky were just different shades of gray.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 hours ago

Grandpa was telling you about 50 shades of grey?

[–] [email protected] 18 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

2001 here literally grew up with CRT static, you have your years a bit off there.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 13 hours ago

I was about to say, i think we had a CRT till about 2010. My grandma still has one upstairs so even my youngest cousins still grew up with it.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago)

Umm… I had a CRT until 2009 and even sold it to someone.

Was it just me or has anyone seen or make out patterns while staring at it? I sometimes found it amusing

[–] [email protected] 15 points 16 hours ago (2 children)

It really isn't though. It is thermal noise.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago) (1 children)

Random radio sources, but a small part of the signal is CMB. I wasn't sure what you even meant by thermal noise but I believe it's a phenomenon of flatscreens. I found something that said it was "similar to snow on analog TVs" - so apparently there's a difference.

Funnily, Google AI says, "In the 1940s, people could detect the CMB at home by tuning their TVs to channel 03 and measuring the remaining static after removing other sources. This allowed them to prove the Big Bang before scientists did." So they had that going for 'em, which is nice.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 13 hours ago

"Thermal Noise" is a phenomenon where everything makes EM noise, just from thermal energy.

If you were to put such a TV in a faraday cage, with an RF termination, you would see something similar. Because noise is inherently part of the circuitry and amplifiers.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 15 hours ago

Could it not be both?

[–] [email protected] 17 points 17 hours ago

Last time I thought about static I wondered why colour TV didn't show colour static.

Turns out the colour signal was on very specific frequencies, and if it wasn't present, it would assume it was a black and white signal and turn off the colour circuit.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 17 hours ago

Say that to my three CRTs. I was born in 2003.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 17 hours ago (2 children)

Cosmic microwave? Is that what you are calling "ants in a snowstorm" these days?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 14 hours ago

Salt and pepper fighting.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 16 hours ago (3 children)

"War of the Ants", where I'm from (sweden).

[–] [email protected] 4 points 15 hours ago

Ask your friend which side is winning, say you're rooting for the black ants, then turn off the TV and claim victory.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 15 hours ago

ok Sweden wins this one

[–] [email protected] 2 points 15 hours ago
[–] [email protected] 3 points 19 hours ago

I have actually, we had a big old crt tv way back when

[–] [email protected] 3 points 19 hours ago

As person born after 2000, I used to play a lot of games on them Wii and GameCube mainly. The image and responsiveness really felt different. I do kinda miss them

[–] [email protected] 5 points 20 hours ago

Many likely haven't seen a channel sign off for the night with a test pattern up til they come back on

[–] [email protected] 5 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

Also, a lot of kids don't have the slightest idea of what the "save" icon in their apps represents. They just know it's the save icon because it's everywhere

[–] [email protected] 3 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago)

To be fair though, many kids nowadays have never seen a save icon as autosave is now practically everywhere. For example take anything on an iPad or other touch device.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago) (1 children)

DAE remember that movie White Noise? The climax was fucking horrifying and I have to admit that it haunted me for quite a while.
For better or worse, kids today probably won't get it.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 19 hours ago

Is it worth scarring myself to know the context?

[–] [email protected] 12 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

2002 here, we still had such a TV. For quite a while actually, since we never upgraded and just started using phones and computers instead. It became my console monitor.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

Yeah OP full of shit. My three sons all born after 2000 have seen this. Hell my flat screen will show snow if I turn it to antenna and there nothing for single to pick up. Also I have console tv for our old gaming systems so they seen that as well

They also know how a vcr works and what a payphone is. We are not that far removed from that technology. Hell my middle son 17 has a record collection and cds. Also we have the cassette audiobook version of Stephen King Dolores Claiborne.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

Modern Tv project fake static when there is no siginal because of fimilarity. OTA broadcasts are all digital, either you get a siginal or you dont.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

Some TVs may project fake static.

Just because OTA broadcasts are digital doesn’t mean you are stuck with all or nothing. You can definitely have poor signal and see or hear something other than what was intended. Doesn’t manifest as analog static, but depending on your decoding and error correction schemes, you can have cut audio, frozen frames, iframe inconsistencies, and stuttering.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago)

No digital is all or nothing. What you are describing is some digital packets making it through and the algothrim is designed to accept some packet loss and has error correction. Its more complicated then i make it out, but thats the jist of it.

It is nothing like analog thats being drowned out by background radiation.

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