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[–] [email protected] 22 points 9 months ago

I honestly have no real opinion on this (yet), as I don't know if that would help or not.

But 90% of all policy proposals from the UK end up being terrible ideas, so I'll just assume this is stupid.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I wonder if there will be any unintended consequences to this action.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Well let you know, NZ's new conservative government has just done this same thing.

Unintended consequences? Boost to low end mobile phone sales: kids will buy a shitty phone to surrender at the start of the school day.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 9 months ago (1 children)

America would call our conservative government, communists.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago

Yep, but it's relative.

But then the USA shrieks "communism" about anything that could possibly negatively impact shareholder value.

In that regard they're just our incredibly racist, sov. cit. brother that ruins family gatherings.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (2 children)

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/jul/26/put-learners-first-unesco-calls-for-global-ban-on-smartphones-in-schools

Seems like an obvious thing to do. Too bad we wasted a generation or two on this problem before waking up.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 9 months ago

It's so obvious that almost all schools in the UK were already doing it.

This is a non-solution that will have zero impact

[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 months ago

It doesn't really need to be legislated by central government though (like here in NZ).

It could've just been a directive from the ministry of education, or left to the schools themselves to decide.

We could just properly fund education, but that's hard apparently.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (2 children)

Time and attention well spent.

E: I have to add an /s to that? Seriously? Who reads this and goes "That's somebody's real take!"

[–] [email protected] -2 points 9 months ago

Yeah sure. That'll fix all the problems.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 9 months ago

Bike shedding.

Let's focus on this small but easily understood problem and hope that someone somewhere else is sorting out the big and difficult stuff.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:


Ministers have confirmed plans to ban the use of mobile phones in English schools, releasing guidance for headteachers which some unions said included practices that had already been widely adopted.

However, one headteacher welcomed the Department for Education (DfE) plan, saying it would help give schools the confidence to make a change which would benefit pupils but could meet resistance from parents.

Ghey has also argued for phone manufacturers to make specific products for under-16s which prevent them from accessing harmful content, after it emerged that the killers of her daughter viewed violent material before the murder.

Writing in a foreword to the guidance, Keegan said it was “about achieving clarity and consistency in practice, backing headteachers and leaders and giving staff confidence to act”, and argued that there was currently much variation in how schools managed the use of phones.

Geoff Barton, the general secretary of the Association of School and College Leaders, said that while the amount of time some children spend on phones was a worry, the new guidance was “a non-policy for a non-problem”.

Tom Bennett, an adviser to the DfE on school behaviour, said: “Mobile phones may be ubiquitous, but we have a strong and growing understanding of how damaging they can be for a child’s social and educational development.”


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