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[–] [email protected] 42 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Oh hey, I have something for this.

From experience, 'making it somebody else's problem' by asking for help, rarely ends well or gets you the help you need. It just makes you an annoyance and look bad, and eventually people (healthcare workers included) decide you're malingering and/or attention seeking and start treating you even worse.

Isn't life fun.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 day ago (11 children)

I wish so many comments on this post didn't support what you're saying. And the guy in the comic isn't even asking for help, just showing that he's suffering.

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Dude should maybe consider seeing a doctor about his "hand".

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 day ago (3 children)

This is about others not taking depression seriously. The difficulty in getting treatment is another matter.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

The others would probably take his problem a lot more seriously if he had at least tried to get it fixed. If you are going to walk around with a mangled blood gushing hand for a prolonged period of time, without seeking help, then you should probably stop whining about it, because I can't do anything for you. I can't force you to go to a doctor.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago (5 children)

A lot of these comments are really proving the point of the comic. Nowhere does it say that anybody took his ailment seriously, yet it's the victim who's at fault.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

To wit: everyone in the comic is dismissive of the ailment; none offers any real help or empathy.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Thats why they put hand in quotes.... it was sarcasm implying that the character needs to see a doctor about his depression

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago

Yes, I know. As I said, not the point of the comic.

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[–] [email protected] 37 points 1 day ago

Goddamn, way to make me flashback.

There was a point in my life where I was facing homelessness, was constantly job searching but hearing nothing back, and had to count coins to make sure I could afford to eat each day. Not only that, but the closest family member, who had invited me to stay with them if things went tits up, had just died two days before in a sudden and tragic way.

And my then-bf dragged me to a bar, where he and all his friends told me to “just let it go” and “loosen up” as if the basement rock of my world hadn’t just eroded out from under me. I sure as shit couldn’t afford bar prices, and not a single one of the group offered to get me anything, leaving me stone sober while they all got shitfaced. I ended up crying alone in the bathroom for an hour, and when I came back out, “bf” was getting a fucking lap dance from his friend’s fiancee.

That wasn’t even the worst part of the night. It definitely got darker before the light returned.

I’m okay now, over a decade later, in an infinitely-better place with supportive friends and partners. But man, what a journey.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

"I can't, because of my hand. My hand hurts so much. Life sucks because of this hand."

"You should go to a doctor to show your hand"

"No! It won't help anything! And it costs money. And I don't know how to or want to anyway."

I've seen that too, where the person doesn't want to actually even try to help themselves.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago (2 children)

And when the doctor decides you're an attention seeking malingerer and refuses to help, what then?

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

If it is the first doctor to say that, I'd seek another opinion. If it's the second or third, well maybe...

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Let me guess, you're a man? A most likely white, cis and straight, man.

How am I doing?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Kinda creepy to start asking and assuming like that...

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago (10 children)

Ask some of the women in your life about what it's like trying to access healthcare. Ask how often they're listened to by doctors and how much respect is given when they say something is wrong.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Notice how the "friends" are completely dismissive of the hand? If they actually thought it was cause for concern, that would be an improvement.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

We don't know how long this has been going on. If it's been years and years of this, I get it.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

If encouraging him to see a doctor were something they were doing, the comic would have shown that.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

what is this, the hand again

They do seem to have been through this before.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago (2 children)

And it's heavily implied it was brushed off before as well. No "I've tried to help you," but rather "It's not a big deal, get over it."

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[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Which of course is a symptom.

“My leg is broken” “Then walk to the hospital, duh” “I can’t, my leg is broken” “Why are you choosing to live in pain?!”

[–] [email protected] -2 points 1 day ago (2 children)

"Well you could call a taxi"

"I don't know how to besides it costs money and time..."

"Well fine, I could drive you"

"No I got other stuff to do."

"Just give me a time and I'll do it"

"I don't know when ugh..."

At that point people will just stop trying since it's always the same wall.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 day ago

A therapists saying about behaviors like this is "then the suffering isn't big enough yet."

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

But they saw it was a serious matter and tried. The people in the comic haven't even reached that point yet.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It could've happened before this

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Their comments don't make it seem so. Nobody says they've tried to help him, only that he should get over it.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago

Then you carry them to the hospital and they don't want to get treatment but they sure as hell want you to keep carrying them around. Been in that situation and it really sucks.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Is this some kind of metaphor?

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