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Young people are struggling to deal with their MAGA parents — again (www.teenvogue.com)

submitted 1 day ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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Summary

With Donald Trump’s 2024 election win, young Gen Z voters like Kate, Holly, and Rachel are grappling with deepening divides with their Trump-supporting parents.

For many, these conflicts go beyond policy disagreements, touching on core values and morality. Parents once focused on fiscal conservatism have, in some cases, embraced conspiracy theories, creating painful rifts.

Studies suggest political divisions are increasingly seen as moral judgments, fostering a “mega-identity” where political views signify personal decency.

For these young adults, maintaining family connections amidst such ideological fractures has become challenging.

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[–] [email protected] 58 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (9 children)

Why are they still claiming "fiscal conservatism" is anything more than racism and class warfare by a different name? Why are conservatives "stronger on economy?" Of course this is causing divides about morals; a vote for the GOP is a vote for oppression and hate.

This bullshit dog-whistling by the media has to stop or we're just letting 70+ million American voters off the hook by letting them claim "but I'm just worried about the economy."

edit: I can't find the source right now, but there's a quote about this. I'm paraphrasing, but it goes something like "historians have a term they use for a person who voted for Hitler because they liked his economic policies. That term is 'Nazi'"

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 day ago (1 children)

What about parents dealing with their maga kids?

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 day ago (4 children)

That's an uncomfortable yet valid question. A significant portion of Gen Z kids were exposed to the MAGA shit through Rogan or Tate. I'm not a parent, but I'd put some serious thought into limiting their inheritance on the down low.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 day ago

I'm a parent. To me it's the same either way. Open dialogue and understanding. You can't shake hands with a closed fist.

Luckily my parents and kids are not insane so haven't had to deal much with this but as an example when Andrew Tate came up in discussion with my kids I explained how he's a disgusting human being and how to judge people through a multitude of criteria such as who is promoting them, what are their interests, who are associated with them, what do they represent, etc.

As a general rule assholes tend to support asshole ideas and surround themselves with other assholes.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago

Well, whatever's left after the landlords and care homes take their cut.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Limit it? they want to try lifting themselves by their own bootstraps they can. Give it to a decent charity or someone more worthy.

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[–] [email protected] 126 points 1 day ago (8 children)

I'm not young anymore but I would say that I'll never forgive my parents for their blind support of this shit.

The same people who have the nerve to tell you (fakely) they're proud of you and think you're really smart. But somehow I'm wrong about every single thing I've told them about trump for 9 years now

[–] [email protected] 52 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Same. It's like you give them a situation, a fact, and how it applies. You ask for understanding and it's " maaaa maaaa MAGA! SHE TURNED BLACK SHE SLEPT HER WAY TO THE TOP"

But yeah, MY sources are wrong, and biased.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 day ago

Right. I think my dad especially has the attitude that it's a) not really important enough to talk about and b) he gave up on the concept of him being wrong decades ago. He just couldn't be, so yes my sources are obviously all wrong. Any implication that he is wrong is unacceptable to his fragile ego. So fucking weak.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Write them off.

And if they need care in later life, put them in the shittiest home you can find.

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[–] [email protected] 61 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Studies suggest political divisions are increasingly seen as moral judgments, fostering a “mega-identity” where political views signify personal decency.

I think this is important information that doesn't get enough attention. The divisions that exist in the US today are often portrayed in the media as mostly superficial, as though we only disagree on the minor details of public policy choices, but generally agree on the core principles. I don't think that's true. I think there are significant ideological, philosophical, and moral disagreements among Americans. We have fundamentally different ideals, and we have differing visions of how America should be, and for how people should act and behave.

There are not only two different visions. I don't think it is a strict dichotomy. I think there are several different, visions for the US. Some left, some right; some that want to focus on religious, social, cultural, or ethnic issues, some that want to focus on economic or material issues. There are multiple different ideals competing for supremacy, since the US is a de facto two party system, the winners are which ever groups can form the largest coalition of voters.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 1 day ago

The thing that really gets me about that quote is that of course your politics are a reflection of your morals. If you're willing to vote for the bigots, it's because, at best, you're ignorant of what they've been saying that they're going to do for a decade now, none of their bigotry is a bridge too far for you, or you actually agree with the bigotry. There are no other possibilities.

[–] [email protected] 65 points 1 day ago

There is only 2 basic core values.

The right: some people are better than others, and the betters should rule. They differ on what makes someone "better", but that's about it. The left: Everyone is equal, some people need more help than others. They differ on who needs the help.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Maybe they should have voted

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

But but but genocide Joe?! 🤪

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 day ago

Just in time for the holidays.

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