The Elon Musk-owned automaker has a troubling history of owners getting locked in their cars without power. Some of these cases may be down to user error, since most Teslas come with manual release levers.
Of course, let's blame the users π
this post was submitted on 13 Nov 2024
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I don't want to be a dick but not using the mechanism to open them is user error.
But it does also sound like they aren't very well placed in some models. I feel like the manual release being the same as any car would make sense. As a fucking standard door handle.
I assume the no power locking is an anti theft thing. But if you're in the car already just provide a handle.
I will be a dick: this is one of those imbeciles teck-bro takes, always comming with excuses for big tech "but actualy.. "
If you design a door handle and people cannot open it: your design is shit. Point.
This was stupid when apple did it with the 'you're holding the phone wrong, idiot', it is criminal when it is done on a security feature.
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If the door can't be opened easily in a panicked life or death situation, it's a design flaw and needs to be recalled and fixed.
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Opening a Rear Door with No Power
You can open a rear door manually (if equipped) in the unlikely situation in which Model Y has no power:
- Remove the mat from the bottom of the rear door pocket.
- Press the red tab to remove the access door.
- Pull the mechanical release cable forward.
Note
Not all Model Y vehicles are equipped with a manual release for the rear doors.
Opening the front doors seems easy enough in the user manual, but opening the back doors requires you to remove a hidden panel then pull a cable, but not all versions of the car even have that hidden panel. Assuming the one in this article did, the car owner would need to give a little safety briefing to every passenger if you want to expect them to know how to open the door. And I'm really not sure what you're expected to do if you have a kid in a carseat in the back.
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"seemingly"
Ye, it seemed like it so we just decided we'd rather burn alive than to actually try opening the door.
News titles sometimes
Worried about libel, it is very likely that someone like Musk would sue.
If they said "It was the fault of Tesla that these people are dead" without proof and without it being a quote from someone else, they can be sued pretty easily.
Authorities are still investigating the crash and fire. But the details that we have so far implicate to some degree the electronic doors used by Tesla and other automakers, which require power to open.
Fair, but at least they're reporting it and connecting the dots re: this tesla safety issue, which I haven't seen from any legacy media
We all know American car safety is a joke, that's not news
What? Our new or modern cars are safe as fuck dude.
They are safer for the occupants. With their increased size, increased sound dampening, and reduced visibility, they are more dangerous to those outside of the vehicle.
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There's more to safety than having the biggest or fanciest car. It's road design, rules, speed, training, etc.
With the skills of an average American driver you wouldn't get your license in some countries.
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Why cantβt the doors be manual on an EV?
Than you wouldnt look smart when a person sitting in your ev doesnt know how to open the door, and you smugly grin and show how stupid they look for not spending 30min on youtube and looking at videos how to open ev doors.
They are in the front. Itβs super obvious. People pull them by accident all the time instead of the electric switch. Itβs right where your hand rests on the front two doors.
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Think I read they can, but it's in a special non obvious place. So they probably didn't know or didn't find it
Not cool enough for someone whose brain stopped developing at 15
Is there an advantage to such an electronic door opener? If they have to include a manual release anyways, it really doesn't seem like they'd save space.
I guess, there might be novelty to just pressing a button, but not burning alive is also quite a cool feature.
Just a button to press!
Emergency release can be hidden behind the speaker cover!
I heard Teslas are supposed to have manual release latches inside.
In any case, doors should always be manual anyway. This isn't the first time this happened and I'm surprised there isn't a regulation for this yet.
They do, but only in the front.
The only reason to use the button is that when you press it, it lowers the window slightly so that it clears the door trim when you open it (the windows are frameless).
Although, I don't see why that couldn't have been integrated into a single mechanism rather than having two separate controls for the same function.
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The BMW manual door release is pulling the handle twice. This kind of negligence is insane and the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration should slap them with a punitive fine and a mandatory recall.
Oh Elon is definitely gonna kill that department.
If we investigated car accidents like we did plane accidents weβd probably have banned them by now.
We'd probably have high speed rail too instead of a vast expanse of highways
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They do have manual release latches, but if you have never used them they might be hard to find. Especially in the panic of a burning car.
Really vehicle electronic doors should operate the same way they (usually?) do in buildings - in case of power loss they default to unlatched.
The article says that some Model Ys don't have a manual release on the rear doors. Can't imagine how that passes any country's safety standards.
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Power loss isn't necessarily a good choice even in a traditional ICE car with a battery, let alone one with a bigass EV battery.
Because it makes it super easy to break into a car (pop the hood and unplug two connectors) AND very likely will remain charged throughout much of the fire.
No. The answer is you have fucking manual locks and door handles that don't require you to pry open a panel.
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I can think of only a few situations where you'd want to get out of a car quickly, where you'd have enough time to look under all the matte covers to find a manual door release switch that may or may not be installed. A fire is certainly not one of them. At the very least shouldn't they be equipped with a Nothammer...?
What's the point of one of these if the windows are supposed to be unbreakable?
A lot of newer cars have stronger glass that even these or the spring-loaded kind canβt break.
tesla gonna tesla so I assume they are as dangerous as can be.
For the rest? There is always (?) one window that isn't reinforced. So that CAN be an issue if your cabin is significantly damaged. But otherwise? It is a problem to find in a high adrenaline emergency and you SHOULD be aware which window to smash, but you are 3-6 smacks away from being out.
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