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[–] [email protected] 83 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I love Bernie. I know he would have beat Trump in 2016. Both tap into populist sentiment, albeit on different sides of the political spectrum. The difference is Bernie wouldn't have any of the baggage that Trump brings with the racism, misogyny, incoherence, etc. he would have won easily. I weep for what would have been. He would have been a champion for the working class, not the charlatan that Trump is.

I think one thing that the Republicans did that Dems didn't is they let the people pick their candidate. It's that simple. They didn't care how unpolished he was, his lack of pedigree, anything. There was no ideological purity test. They duked it out in their primary and let the people decide. Something for the Dems to learn from.

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[–] [email protected] -1 points 2 days ago (5 children)

Here from PA to tell you you're nuts, Bernie would not have won.

Also: Downvote. Since we're not mature enough to handle actual downvotes anymore.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 days ago

Here from PA to disagree. I believe that if Bernie had won in 2016, his VP would be our president-elect right now, and Trump would've never attempted a return to politics.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Perhaps you'd like to elaborate?

In this case I actually think the downvotes are appropriate. It's not that you're presenting a different opinion but you're not adding any reasoning or substance to your claim

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Also: Downvote. Since we're not mature enough to handle actual downvotes anymore.

Maybe you’re not…

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Yep, I think anybody who isn't a genocidal zio could've won. The dems chose genocide over "winning". That's liberalism.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 days ago (1 children)

So instead the voters chose genocide + a whole lot more bad stuff.

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[–] [email protected] 32 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (3 children)

He always would have. He knows how to get the people motivated and straight up fucking torqued. He hits every nail when it comes to social or economic problems. On top of it all, he's so passionate about it he'll argue until he's red in the face for us. Honestly fuck everyone who worked to move that man out of the way.

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[–] [email protected] 95 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (11 children)

This point about Bernie winning has been belabored, however consider a 2016 election where the DNC didn’t collude for Hillary. Then we have Bernie as the ticket and beating trump and never hearing of that fucker again (hopefully). What a different world it would’ve been having Bernie as the 45th president

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Small tangent. Instead of reading it as bee-labored, I read belabored as bella-bored the first time and I was like, "Bela... bored....? Huh, that's a new word. Let's Google that! ... Oh, I'm an idiot."

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago (9 children)

Which state's primary votes did the DNC alter or override to give Hillary the nomination by popular vote instead for Bernie?

[–] [email protected] 25 points 2 days ago (4 children)

The other candidates gradually stepped aside to allow Hillary to run. The big one being Joe Biden not running as it was her "turn", allegedly after the deal between the Clintons and the Obamas.

If Biden had run in 2016, he probably would have won. And Trump would be a footnote in history.

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[–] [email protected] 22 points 2 days ago (2 children)

The donors would have never stood for it, which is why the DNC did what it did.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Yeah, the DNC will only support central and right leaning Capitalist candidates.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

They said "imagine," you potato.

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