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More like "Yes And".
Power and telecom lines are one of the more organic and chaotic parts of an urban environment. I live somewhere that has loads of them, including trollycar lines. In some places it's pretty thick.
I love it. It adds a layer of aesthetic that prevents the world from looking too minimalist, which is nice since that's where most new architecture is headed...
ah, beautiful Québec :)
If I'm gonna be entirely honest, I think power lines are really nice looking. I even have them as my phones wallpaper. Maybe it's just because I have a interest in infrastructure or something, idk
me too! I love em, but that's just because I hate all the new stuff we have got. So I like to find comfort in the old things, that are still used everyday.
This person makes really beautiful digital art that features a lot of power lines. I think it's really cool. Example:
While they do affect the skyline, i find them kind of a great. Its like wind turbines, they serve a very easy to understand purpose and exist for everyone while having only little environmental impact and lasting a lomg ass time. Compared to infrastructure like starlink which will only ever serve a few people, obstructs the entire sky for everyone from any angle and will only function for a few(5) years before having to be replaced.
I can't find the exact shot, but I used to have a picture of the 220kV lines parallel to the Desert Road as my desktop background. Something like this:https://johnmathews.smugmug.com/Nov-18-Desert-Road-North-Island/i-CkSm5tK
Nice!
What is your solution?
Underground cables.
Underground works well for greenfields construction, where you can map everything out ahead of time and don't have to deal with existing underground services.
It's manageable on low-density streets where its really only three waters and maybe some telephone lines.
It's a nightmare to underground existing infrastructure in dense environments. Underground is already full of three generations of critical comms, corroding gas, water, HV lines that will fail if you look at them wrong, and if you're really unlucky, steam pipes too.
And that's always the best solution? You see no reason for above ground cables?
Somewhere. Somewhere Japan
Overhead transmission lines are so 1950s.
Invest in your country.
Yes im encouraged by seeing them use those machines to put things in the ground. I had not realized how effiicient it had gotten. May be cheaper than the poles hanging now.
Still about a 10x cost difference, plus (particularly on transmission lines) there's issues with extra capacitive loading.
There are benefits of overhead lines. They are cheaper to install, maintain, and repair. Diagnosing problems are much easier as well. They're certainly uglier and easier to damage but you don't have to dig up the road to fix them.
Newer cities shouldn't install overhead lines but to have old cities with overhead lines switch to underground ones is very expensive and takes a lot of time, something smaller cities likely don't have the budget for.
Japan is earthquake country so they get a pass.
India however...
Japan is slowly burying all their overhead lines into the sidewalks. A lot of urban streets look so much nicer now than they did 10 years ago.
It’s probably no worse in an earthquake than the water mains, which would inherently be a lot more rigid than cables with intentional slack built into every segment.