this post was submitted on 09 Nov 2024
124 points (84.8% liked)

Showerthoughts

29692 readers
795 users here now

A "Showerthought" is a simple term used to describe the thoughts that pop into your head while you're doing everyday things like taking a shower, driving, or just daydreaming. A showerthought should offer a unique perspective on an ordinary part of life.

Rules

  1. All posts must be showerthoughts
  2. The entire showerthought must be in the title
  3. Avoid politics
    1. NEW RULE as of 5 Nov 2024, trying it out
    2. Political posts often end up being circle jerks (not offering unique perspective) or enflaming (too much work for mods).
    3. Try c/politicaldiscussion, volunteer as a mod here, or start your own community.
  4. Posts must be original/unique
  5. Adhere to Lemmy's Code of Conduct-----

founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
 

Edit: you just have to be selective at your victim or do mass shooting.

top 32 comments
sorted by: hot top controversial new old
[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 days ago

A shower thought with a long history:

Herostratus (Ancient Greek: Ἡρόστρατος) was a 4th-century BC Greek, accused of seeking notoriety as an arsonist by destroying the second Temple of Artemis in Ephesus (on the outskirts of present-day Selçuk), one of the Seven Wonders of the Ancient World. The act prompted his execution and the creation of a damnatio memoriae law forbidding anyone to mention his name, orally or in writing. The law was ultimately ineffective, as evidenced by surviving accounts of his crime. Thus, Herostratus has become an eponym for someone who commits a criminal act in order to become famous.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 days ago

Trying to be memorable is a narcissist trait I wish would go away. After the planet cleanses itself of humanity because America elected their chief narcissist, there will be nobody around to read Wikipedia.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 days ago

You could also just jump the fence to a high security building and nobody gets hurt, unless there's barbed wire of course

[–] [email protected] 25 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Actually, the easiest way is to just go edit Wikipedia and make the page. It might violate rules, but so does murder

[–] [email protected] 9 points 5 days ago

It might violate rules, but so does murder

But murdering people won't get your edits reverted. If you take out some of the over zealous wikipedia police your page is guaranteed.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 5 days ago (2 children)

Shooting up a school is the easiest way to go from nobody to everyone talking about you the next day. Grim but true.

If I were a dictator I'd probably make it illegal to publish the names or any other information about the shooter. Even better if media wouldn't report on the shooting at all but I feel like prohibiting that would be taking it too far.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 days ago

I'm sure a lot of the victims were just kicking themselves after they'd died

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

Killing someone more important has always been a ticket to, not fame, but infamy.

Comes from latin for "ill famed" or "of evil reputation."

[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Not the kind of shit you should say because, just like their names shouldn't be reported, you don't want to inspire people to kill others to become known.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Oh boohoo let people have fun

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 days ago

LOL.

But on a real note, I think most people have already figured this out, it has to contribute at least a little to such public displays, otherwise they'd be trying to get away with it.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 days ago

Really you need to kill several someone's, preferably at once if you'd like your own page in short order.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 6 days ago

nah just publish a really racist book or something."Flick Flickerson, author of the controversial title Every Slur I Know..."

[–] [email protected] 38 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

The quickest and easiest way would be to make one for yourself.

Killing a single, random person isn't going to get you anything.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Wikipedia has a page talking about making your own page. Its definitely biased, focusing on why its a poor idea, but it was still a mildly interesting read.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:An_article_about_yourself_isn%27t_necessarily_a_good_thing

[–] [email protected] 9 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Fuck that, it's a scamp. They gave my page to Lee Harvey Oswald

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Did your mom name you Lee Harvey oswald?

Did your mom, aka Mrs Oswald, not know that Lee Harvey Oswald killed JFK, or was she like really proud of that fact and wanted to carry on his legacy?

Did she legally change her last name to Oswald just so she could name you Lee Harvey Oswald?

Or are you like a Jr and your dad is Lee Harvey Oswald Sr?

Did your mom bully your dad into changing his name to Lee Harvey Oswald?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 days ago (1 children)

No, I was implying that Lee Harvey Oswald didn't do shit. He's just an imposter who took all the credit for my hard work. Months of careful planning and a risky execution, but who gets the credit? The guy I hired to deliver the rifle.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 days ago

Oh shit it's E. Howard Hunt's lemmy account!

[–] [email protected] 29 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Someone once said that if you wanted your name to be known forever, your best bet would be to eat the Mona Lisa.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 days ago (1 children)

And yet, can anyone off the top of their head tell me who it was that originally said that?

[–] [email protected] 15 points 5 days ago

Someone who didn't eat the Mona Lisa.

[–] [email protected] 32 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Not really. You have to kill someone whos famous enough in their own right to get a page (organically not just a bs make your own). Tons of folks get killed everyday and the killers don't get a page.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Serial killers get pages, but that seems like a lot of work

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 days ago

yeah thats multiple someones over a lot of years and then there is the whole not getting caught and evading arrest. Its just a list of endless headaches.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

Or you could just make one for yourself? Can you not???

[–] [email protected] 15 points 6 days ago (2 children)

it will be deleted very quickly for lack of relevance.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 days ago

Not if you use your profile page to do it.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Astroturfing your own relevance has got to be easier than planning a noteworthy murder.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Murder is relatively easy. Avoiding the consequences is not.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 days ago

The consequences are a prerequisite to get "your own" page, I'd argue. I'd say it only counts as "yours" if you're identified, the page for say The Zodiac or D.B. Cooper it isn't "yours," it belongs to the named entity as an idea, until linked with "your" identity.

[–] [email protected] 62 points 6 days ago

Nah, vast majority of murders are not noteworthy and the killer has no article.