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[–] [email protected] 15 points 5 months ago

I'd rather eat a frozen pizza and drink beer in the basement for 1/6th the price.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 5 months ago (4 children)

Waiter deals with the general public. They deserve it

[–] [email protected] 12 points 5 months ago

I always leave a tip, but asking ME to pay more for someone ELSE’s rudeness is insane.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago

I have people skills; I am good at dealing with people. Can't you understand that? What the hell is wrong with you people?

[–] [email protected] 9 points 5 months ago

I work with multi million dollar companies in an office. Companies are people.

Why no tip? I do job

[–] [email protected] 44 points 5 months ago (2 children)

I mean, they deserve to make a liveable wage regardless of whether someone tips.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I only tip when I think they deserve a tip. I tipped the last meal I ate out. Nice person who checked every few minutes if we needed anything else. They kept our drinks from getting empty. The service was worth the tip so they got it. That is what the tip is for. Good service, not any service.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 5 months ago (2 children)

checked every few minutes

god damn, i would get annoyed from that much service.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago

She just walked by and checked. We were not the only table getting that kind of service. She only stopped when she saw a glass getting empty or when she saw we had finished the meal.

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[–] [email protected] -3 points 5 months ago (5 children)

If you live in a place where food service workers are underpaid and you don't tip, you're an asshole. This is not a morally defensible stance unless there is a system to protect those workers already in place.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago

You're correct. Their wage is often ~$3/hr. It's nearly slave labor.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 months ago (5 children)

While I'm totally for the workers being paid great, it's not really MY job to do so (unless i own the restaurant I'm eating at. And at those the waiters are paid way above average and don't need tips). Here we tip for excellent service, not the bare minimum to get my food on the table.

If you tip to pay salaries, YOU are the actual asshole that keeps a system alive that is the absolute dogshit in dystopian shitholes with no worker-rights like the US.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

If you're patronizing a restaurant that underpays wait staff and refuse to tip the server, you're not only fucking them but you're supporting the system by going to the restaurant in the first place.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

If you would've actually read the comment, you would've been in a clear advantage.

Where i live and eat, staff is paid fair and tips are given. But, as everywhere in this country, for especially good service and not because the customer is forced to because the employer doesn't pay wages because the system is broken.

I also said that at my restaurants, waiting staff is paid way above average, which is probably multiple times of your weird country's mininum. Do you even have a point?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Sure, let me help you! My point is that if you're patronizing a restaurant that underpays wait staff and refuse to tip the server, you're not only fucking them but you're supporting the system by going to the restaurant in the first place.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

They're not employed by me. Wages are between them and their boss. Any more from anywhere else should not be treated as anything other than the optionally-given gift it is.

Tipping culture essentially amounts to legalized wage discrimination.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (4 children)

And you think the customer is the asshole because the system works.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 5 months ago (3 children)

You're right. I should just not go there at all, watch the business collapse, and see them beg for jobs at the next shitty restaurant. That's the better option apparently?

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 months ago

That is the high road tbh... plus you can just go to joints that not require tipping. They are on the rise.

Also, many places just slap 20% now anyway... so we are in some clown reality where it is now a service fee and owner can just take it because they pay minwage lol

Peasants can never win here.

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