So ... you're comfortable with fascists in your bar?
Congrats! You've got a fascist bar!
I mean, you do you and all that shit, but you'll find that over time all you're going to get is fascists as normal people bail out on you.
this post was submitted on 07 Nov 2024
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I am concerned about ten forward seemingly deciding to do a war on fascism.
Can you explain the concerning thing?
The fact that we can't have nice things. I don't come to star trek communities for political discussions. I want Tuvix memes and other fun stuff.
The political rhetoric is just depressing and doesn't do anything meaningful.
Your attitude helped the Fanta Menace to win, so you don't get any sympathy for me.
You sound like those idiots complaining that "NuTrek is too woke".
Hear, hear!
as if there arn't enough of them already
Any examples of this war?
Two people (including OP) have been banned from Ten Forward for spreading fascistic talking points or for downplaying fascism. I said that anyone who openly supports Trump in Ten Forward will be permanently banned as fascists are not welcome. Star Trek has made it abundantly clear that it's aggressively anti-fascist with two major fan favorite characters being people who would just straight up kill fascists for fun. I simply made it known that the community will align itself with the show and fascists are not welcome.
No bigotry or fascism. This is a Star Trek community. Hating someone off of their race, culture, creed, sexuality, or identity is not remotely acceptable, neither is supporting people who actively want to kill those groups. Mistakes can happen but do your best to respect others.
So quick thing. Our community has a rule of ‘No bigotry’. Honestly? I think that if you voted for Trump you basically violated that rule. So lemme be clear. If you voted for Trump, voted for Third Party, or didn’t vote at all and you say as much on this community, I will permanently ban you. Yes, I am including Third Party in that. Jill Stein is an open asset of the Russians. More over, a Third Party candidate was never going to win. Your position of a protest vote did nothing other than fuck over everyone else in the country. You are just as bad as the people who did not vote and worse than the people who voted for Trump. At least they were honest about what they were doing. You deluded yourself into believing that a completely different election was happening and actively enabled fascism. You do not get to call yourself a Star Trek fan when your actions have shown that you go against absolutely everything that it stands for and represents.
Also some of the mods of that community have gotten in trouble elsewhere for there "quests" against fascism. I don't care what you believe but forcing a large community to hyperfocus on some silly agenda is not a good look for moderators.
Wait, we are not supposed to be at war against fascists?
You can be at war in a related community.
You shouldn't be at war in an unrelated commmunity.
So we just let the fascists into Star Trek? Hard pass.
I think I get the argument, and I’m not going to defend fascists, but if a fascist comes to a Star Trek community to discuss Star Trek, cool. If they come there to talk about how awesome fascism is, seeya. If the mods of a community want to ban people for their views that have not been shared in the Star Trek community they run, that’s bs. If the content is on topic, nobody should be getting banned.
The quote does say, if you did these things, and say as much in this community. Now, certainly, Trek has politics baked in, but advocating the clearly fascist choice is kind of what they always go against. If they were checking user history to do a little purity test, I'd agree that would be going too far.
I've got a life. I'm not spending time going through someones post history to find out if they liked Trump elsewhere. But yeah, if you're trying to defend fascism (or make it seem like not a big deal, like Possibly Linux was) then I'm going to kick you out of the community. Star Trek has made it aggressively clear that it has always been political since they filmed the Cage. Star Trek has also made it abundantly clear that fascists are wrong and go against everything Star Trek stands for. There is a reason that the fascists are always the bad guy.
I'm simply not going to allow someone to spread fascistic propaganda in Ten Forward. We have enough of it from the Cardassians.
So if OP wants to run off and make their own Star Trek community that tacitly approves of fascism then by all means. I just dunno how many people are going to want to engage with that.