these people are obsessed with their 80s teenager level understanding of nerds vs popular kids. paul graham wrote an essay in his late 30s or something about how the only reason he wasn't popular in high school was that he was too busy being smart.
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Post doesn't mention IQ
your mum doesn't mention iq
One of the things Ford Prefect had always found hardest to understand about humans was their habit of continually stating the obvious...
It actually takes a lot of IQ to infer, you know, context.
To be fair you need a very high IQ to understand ~~Rick and Morty~~ a Twitter thread
the punchline to your joke was The Aristrocrats and yet there were no aristocrats present in the body of the joke
in all seriousness, not all incestuous families are aristrocratic, and the interchanging of these terms can mislead people. the same thing is happening with the “comedy” elsewhere in this thread.
Actually I lied this one is also a mess. If you want to be an argumentative dick to me then find a point and make it.
why are you talking about iq? the image doesn’t mention it and context and object permanence can’t get you if you post enough shit memes
Let's stick to one nasty reply per comment. I'm choosing this one as the one to ignore because it's less coherent.
ok you’re hopeless, fuck along now
and you haven't yet understood that you're missing the point, and that you're sounding like an utter dipshit with your foot so thoroughly in mouth?
When did lemmy get so mean? I didn't miss the point. I get that the joke is nft bros don't understand that people hate them because they're sexist scam artists, not because they claim to be nerds. Are we limited to only responding directly to the main point of a post? That's a little limiting to the variety of discussions we could be having, don't you think?
Since people don't seem to have gotten my point: I'm not defending techbros. I'm saying that it's strange to make the title about IQ when they aren't pretending to have a high IQ, they're pretending to be nerds. Those are different things.
thank fuck I banned them before they could continue this thread. holy shit
Gonna have to keep the weird nerds image macro on hand (in scripts/shortcuts)…
haha, when did [Internet Explorer] get so mean?
IP is the meanest protocol because without it nobody could yell at me when I steadfastly refuse to acknowledge the merest possibility that there could be a joke I don’t understand
Nobody was ever mean to me when I used UDP.
…yet. it’s time for a quake lan party and everybody’s invited!
you don’t say
Someone warn those men never to interact with anime profile pics.
what does the dystopia maker peddle these days now that the nfts and crypto are failing?
Has he done anything but blog, microblog and lispturbate since he sold his E Commerce site?
oh, i was thinking about that suzuha person, i remember remarkably unpleasant interactions with that account when i still used twitter.
Somehow comforting to know I wasn’t the only one
AI mostly now. Also was big into the superconductor mania.
Shit like this is why I hate nerds. (Note: am nerd, by any sensible measure.)
It's like being a Radiohead fan post-OK Computer
As a Radiohead fan post-OKC that’s apt
Two wrongs don't make a right.
This thread is using "techbro" to refer to workers way too much, there's an upvoted post on here about how to take away the average working class tech worker's job. You guys really think OpenAI is going to outsource to the gig economy? Uber for tech is only going to punish the least well paid devs, the generic webdevs just making websites for a small business. OpenAI isn't going to let randos fuck around in their codebase.
A lot of software devs and tech workers are marginalised, neurodivergent or otherwise socially disadvantaged. Too many people in this thread are completely ignoring any kind of intersectionality just because they're men.
Elon Musk isn't a tech worker, he's a tech CEO. Sam Altman isn't a tech work, he's a tech CEO. Sundar Pichai, Susan Wojcicki, Jen-Hsun Huang. All CEOs not tech workers.
The real "techbros" are all business people in an actual position of power, not the introverted QA tester just trying to get through the day. It's disheartening to see so much class division, when your local tech worker is more likely to be an ally than a "techbro".
In fact Software Devs are overwhelmingly Democrat (83.9%), it's up there with Artists (85.9%) and Scientists (88.4%) https://www.zippia.com/advice/democratic-vs-republican-jobs/
“A lot of software devs and tech workers are marginalised, neurodivergent or otherwise socially disadvantaged. Too many people in this thread are completely ignoring any kind of intersectionality just because they’re men.”
Even though this person’s recent posting history really does make me assume good faith, the particular flavor of misreading the conversation really does provoke a “ooh, paul graham, zat you?” response.
Think you slightly misinterpreted the tone here and missed that people are mostly agreeing with you re what the term tech bros means. (A tech bro can still be a worker of course, workers can also be bad people. Anyway there are various different groups all sides muddle together (see how the OP tweet muddles 'people who rule tech' with nerds with tech bros with tech workers and finance people etc.
And you are imho doing the same here, with the 'real techbros are' part, as that is imho the 'the nerds who have taken over the world' part. While in this thread the tendency is to use techbro as a term for toxic masculine man who works for a tech company/related company who makes the environment harder for minorities/women/ND people. That most of people in tech are democrats (which is quite useless as an indicator as our local sneerclub posting shows (see how many people defended SSC Scott by calling him a democrat), both parties in the USA allow for a lot of rightwingers and shitty people) is not that relevant. Anyway, if the old reddit sneerclub regulars who now also post in techtakes are any indication this place is a little bit further left than you thought.
Which isn't to say I disagree with the idea of your post that we should be careful not to shoot too broadly, but I don't think that is really happening here, a post basically agreeing with you is at almost 60 upvotes right now (which for techtakes is quite a high amount). So yeah I think your heart is in the right place but you have seemed to have misread the tone of this place a bit.
The real “techbros” are all business people in an actual position of power, not the introverted QA tester just trying to get through the day.
If the QA tester goes home and checks his Raspberry Pi dogecoin mining rig, and is saving up for a Cybertruck, he's probably a tech bro, if only a larval one.
there’s an upvoted post on here about how to take away the average working class tech worker’s job
Are you talking about mine? The point of the post was that techbros and tech industry workers are not the same thing, and that actually the tech workers whose valor those CEOs are stealing are vulnerable to the same tactics techbro startups have used to fuck over workers in other sectors.
A lot of software devs and tech workers are marginalised, neurodivergent or otherwise socially disadvantaged. Too many people in this thread are completely ignoring any kind of intersectionality just because they’re men.
A lot of people in every industry are marginalized, neurodivergent or otherwise socially disadvantaged.
I am a queer, neurodivergent, left wing tech worker myself. Most of the regulars here are probably at least two or three of those things as well. I know lots of tech workers who are in no way techbros, but I've also met some of the least class conscious, most obliviously racist and misogynist opportunist motherfuckers who would lick the boots of every billionaire on earth for a chance to join their ranks. This is about the latter.
that's great and not in any way what this is about, but thanks for your driveby
intersectionality is when you carry water for paul fucking graham and get pissed when the name techbro applies just as well to your shitheaded engineering coworker who HR can’t seem to fire as it does to your failson of a CEO who claims to be an expert programmer and has personally caused a significant amount of production downtime in his attempts to prove it
this kind of cognitive dissonance only happens when you’re on the verge of realizing that you are, in fact, the shitheaded techbro, and you have to do what it takes to pretend the label only applies to billionaires
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