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I highly doubt the left will do anything uncivil. How can they win back the country? Is it too late?

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Yes. It is too late. This was the inevitable outcome. Sooner or later.

Dems here are like UK Labor. They're a right wing party who occasionally cosplays as a left leaning one when they need to. They stand as the bullwark against any form of left wing populism. And they've done their job to the letter.

Our economy is almost entirely debt driven financialization and gambling. There is another subprime mortgage crisis brewing. Exactly the same as the one in '08, except way bigger. And our economy is far more precarious than it was then.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 hour ago
[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 hours ago

Tough question. I don't think the descendants of european, asian and african settlers are going back home any time soon.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 hours ago

Violence. There will not be a second option.

Feel free to wait until the camps start, liberals. That will be the "civil" course.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 5 hours ago (2 children)

Americans HAVE their country, this is what they want, this is what they voted for. Stop treating Americans as if this is something pressed upon them. They chose this. Now they will live with the consequences.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

a third of us chose this, while half of us couldn't be bothered to give a shit.

sanity is an oppressed minority in the us, and it's worse than I ever could have thought.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 hours ago

couldn’t be bothered to give a shit

Which means they chose this too. The only people without any culpability are the ones who voted for Harris or who for many reasons were not able to vote.

Doesn't mean that the people who did not vote are as much at fault as the ones voting for Trump, but they share part of the blame.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 hours ago

Yep Imma stand back and watch it all go to absolute hell and I'll be pleased knowing they brought it on themselves.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 hours ago
[–] [email protected] 18 points 5 hours ago

Who knows. Apparently half my country is full of legitimately hateful people who just want to watch the people they don't like suffer.

How the fuck do we come back from that? Honestly, are we even worth redeeming?

For me, this is it. This is when America died. If you're still "proud" to be an American after this, you're brain-damaged.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Come to Australia mate

We will send our rejects to America in exchange

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 hours ago

What a tweest!

[–] [email protected] 14 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Win it back from who?

Other Americans who made this choice know who Trump is and thats what they want.

The Rich have always owned this country. No one is taking anything from them. Its illegal to try.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 hours ago

Yup. Americans just won their country back, unfortunately.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Regardless of your views on the Orange Grifter / Gift from God (delete as applicable) this question is fundamentally flawed. “How do we build bridges, find common ground and begin to win over our fellow US citizens who have, in my opinion, made a poor and misinformed political choice that could have terrible consequences for them, our country and the world at large?” might be a more appropriate opener. I understand you’re upset, scared, desolate etc but your language comes off as belligerent and aggressive. Perhaps soften your tone and be more receptive to others’ concerns. For the record, I’ve got no flies on this turd as I’m not from the US, nor do I live there. Good luck.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

The Republicans are running on a platform of attacking the rights of racial minorities, and the right for trans people to exist

And the people who vote for them like the pain they cause or are so checked out they don't know/care

Idk if there is a way to work with people who's political agenda is to kill you

[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 hours ago

If over half of your active voters want to kill people as part of a national policy then you’re probably fucked beyond repair as a people and a nation. My condolences.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 10 hours ago

I think that first you have to start by admitting two things:

  1. Americans did win their/your election
  2. Americans have l9st faith in their democratic institutions

After that, you can look at why the Democratic parties fail to appeal to Americans, and try to reform them.

If you go outside of democracy to gain democracy, then you probably lose what's left of your democracy.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 13 hours ago

"Americans" did win their country back. We aren't welcome in it anymore.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 13 hours ago

We radicalize, organize, pour into our communities, support one another, find people already doing the work and join in, and keep fighting like hell.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

They will over the next 4 years. Elections swing back and forth. Midterms will probably be greatly fir democrats

[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Yes, with full control over all 3 branches, fanatacist support groups and a stated desire to overthrow the previous norms and standards in order to build permanent total control, I'm sure the midterms and next election will totally take place and absolutely swing back to the Dems.

Fucking hell.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 hours ago

People just can’t understand that there won’t be elections anymore. The right has been projecting about martial law and FEMA camps since at least 2008.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 14 hours ago
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