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Hurling ordure at the TREACLES, especially those closely related to LessWrong.

AI-Industrial-Complex grift is fine as long as it sufficiently relates to the AI doom from the TREACLES. (Though TechTakes may be more suitable.)

This is sneer club, not debate club. Unless it's amusing debate.

[Especially don't debate the race scientists, if any sneak in - we ban and delete them as unsuitable for the server.]

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I haven't read the whole thread yet, but so far the choice line is:

I like how you just dropped the “Vance is interested in right authoritarianism” like it’s a known fact to base your entire point on. Vance is the clearest demonstration of a libertarian the republicans have in high office. It’s an absurd ad hominem that you try to mask in your wall of text.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 weeks ago

Well, he was already practically an SS-Mann without the neck lapels, so why be surprised about this?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Sweet: Comments talking about the specific situation of JD Vance referencing an SSC post.

Not Sweet: Any other references to JD Vance about anything unrelated, including the upcoming election, per the culture war rule.

I probably shouldn’t be looking for meaning in a rule that’s designed so that none of Scott’s fans associate him with the fascist shit he constantly and intentionally platforms, but what the fuck is this supposed to mean? don’t bring up the only reason anyone including Joe Rogan gives a fuck about JD Vance?

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

"There was a post, [pause], I forget who wrote it" <- the kind of thing I have said several times attempting to avoid leaking rationalist-evidence-bits.

gotta keep that power level under wraps

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 weeks ago

"Leaking rationalist-evidence-bits" is an unexpectedly top-tier euphemism for the aftermath of digesting Wendy's chili

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (11 children)

Keep in mind that, for theologically conservative (“the Bible is historically and spiritually accurate”) Christians like myself,

rationalists whoo

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Ya know, we used to joke about Ted Cruz being an alien and recording the shape of people's skulls, as if that were unusual.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

We're potentially one election - and one big mac-related cardiac arrest - away from our first nooticer president. The American Experiment is on the verge of failure.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

What a bastardization of that post, and Scott's general views on the subject

Can someone summarize how this is a big misinterpretation or mistake?

I'm not in any way MAGA or trumpy or a culture war person [sure you are. E: one sort by controversial later and they are indeed a culture war person not a full time one but still], but I'm a long time SSC reader and I thought the post/article was about the fascinating and complete sorta morhph/takeover of the civic "ethos" or civic religion of the elite bluebloods of the USA.

From veneration of founders and founding fathers (up through Abe Lincoln, etc) as the sorta civic glue and religion that we are brought up on, to now embracing LGBTQ+ (not much emphasis on boring normal "L" and "G" [dog barks]) through parades, flags, police cars, crosswalks, holidayds, add campaigns, corporate slogans and logos, etc.

Is this not how most readers understood the article?

Hope this makes some sscers reconsider being a fan of scotts writing. (And yes there was pushback in the replies)

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (6 children)

not much emphasis on boring normal “L” and “G”

"Look I'm not really saying G-word and L-word are normal, but I might be willing to invite them to my BBQs if they never mention it, hate rainbows, and allow straight people to cut in line ahead of them as a civic duty."

Also wait is not even "B" 'normal' enough for this guy?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (3 children)

They are also concerned about t levels in athletes, and IQ comes up. Which he defends with "If you think none of these tests are actually measuring anything of value, you must need to explain why they correlate so well with life outcomes related to cognition."

I think a problem with ssc people is that they dont realize they are culture warriors.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

i see no evidence they don't realise just fine

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 weeks ago

life outcomes related to cognition

My sides.

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