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Defederating from Hexbear.net (startrek.website)

submitted 1 month ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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This instance has defederated from hexbear.net for violating our rules against propaganda as outlined in our Terms of Service. If you are unfamiliar, federation means two servers sync and host each other's content. Defederation stops us from syncing their content to our server.

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[–] [email protected] 36 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Oh thank goodness. I like this instance a lot but the hexbear spam was annoying.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago

Good move.

[–] [email protected] 34 points 1 month ago

too little too late, but they needed to be a little less locutus and a little more jean-luc.

they are like very online. or something. I can't tell and I don't wanna know. good riddance.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 month ago

Thank you for your service.

[–] [email protected] 81 points 1 month ago

[–] [email protected] 39 points 1 month ago

Thank you, the comments were getting pretty rough the last couple days.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 month ago (3 children)

+1 for using Bookstack.

We use that at work for some internal documentation. Love it.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago

Its an amazing tool. No one else at my work wants to adopt it so it is my personal documentation app.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 month ago

Bookstack is great!

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

What?

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 month ago (1 children)

The link to their Terms of Service in the post is running on an open-source wiki software called "Bookstack".

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

@[email protected] Can I ask what they were propagandising about?

[+] [email protected] -65 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (18 children)

expect vague answers or examples of individual clueless tankies used to justify the bans of entire instances at best.

defederating & banning from tankies is popular on the lemmyverse and they're making the decision of whom you can & can't talk to on your behalf; whether or not you asked them for it.

if you care about your agency on this social media platform; try switching or joining another instance that treats you like an adult that can make your own decisions.

pick one that doesn't defederate and their attempts to decide on your behalf will become self defeating and you'll still be able to participate here.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

they're making the decision of whom you can & can't talk to on your behalf

If I want to talk to people on a defederated instance, I can create an account on the defederated instance. Nobody has made any decision for me. You seem unhinged.

whether or not you asked them for it

Admins having the power to decide to defederate is implied simply by being a Lemmy server. It cannot be any other way. The only "asking" that occurs in this situation is a user asking permission to sign up, create an account and use the server where the admins necessarily have that power.

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[–] [email protected] 37 points 1 month ago (1 children)

This is a bad take. Server admins have the final say on who they federate with. I prefer to be on an instance that bans tankies and other poorly moderated instances. Heck, I support defederating with lemmy.ml because it's users seem to be confused about what freedom is.

[+] [email protected] -26 points 1 month ago (3 children)

no one's arguing that they can't make up their own rules.

also let people on other instances believe whatever they want; it has no bearing on you and you can block them and entire instances for yourself if you need to.

i don't want power tripping mods/admins or suppressive policies to make that decision for me; that's why so many people and I left reddit; i'm an adult who can make up my own mind and the lemmyverse already has the tools to empower me to do so.

this isn't reddit or a walled garden; in the fediverse it's the vegetables section of a community garden that was designed to maximize cross pollination and defederation episodes like this are like trying to install a permeable gate that don't stop that cross pollination.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 month ago

@lemmy.ml

Ah, now it makes sense.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 month ago (1 children)

The concept of defederation is literally the single most important core feature differentiating the Fediverse from centralized social media. I find it interesting that you feel employing it to be antithetical to the concept of federated networks.

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[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 month ago

You are correct that it is a requirement for all communities hosted on this instance to be actively moderated within instance principles.

[–] [email protected] 33 points 1 month ago

they’re making the decision of whom you can & can’t talk to on your behalf

Anyone who wants to spool up an alt on a defederated server is welcome to do so. We suck at totalitarianism.

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[–] [email protected] 37 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

I've seen plenty of stuff over there saying if you're against Russia and their social engineering being used against the US, it's basically the same as being an antisemite.

The whole place is whackadoodle.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 month ago

Theory divorced from historical context results in all kinds of cognitive dissonance, and that's what I see there for the most part.

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