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OK, its just a deer, but the future is clear. These things are going to start kill people left and right.

How many kids is Elon going to kill before we shut him down? Whats the number of children we're going to allow Elon to murder every year?

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (2 children)

So, a kid on a bicycle or scooter is an edge case? Fuck the Muskrat and strip him of US citizenship for illegally working in the USA. Another question. WTF was the driver doing?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago (2 children)

In regards to the deer, it looks like it might have been hard to see for the driver. I remember learning in driversED that it is better to hit the animal instead of swerving to miss it as it might hit a car to your side, so maybe that is what they were thinking?

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 5 months ago

You just need to buy the North America Animal Recognition AI subscription and this wouldn't be an issue plebs, it will stop for 28 out of 139 mammals!

[–] [email protected] -1 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (4 children)

I hit a deer on the highway in the middle of the night going about 80mph. I smelled the failed airbag charge and proceeded to drive home without stopping. By the time I stopped, I would never have been able to find the deer. If your vehicle isn't disabled, what's the big deal about stopping?

I've stuck two deer and my car wasn't disabled either time. My daughter hit one and totaled our van. She stopped.

That said, fuck Musk.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 5 months ago (6 children)

Maybe drive a little slower at night. If you can't spot and react to animals on your path, you won't able to react when it's a human

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 5 months ago

Whether or not a human should stop seems beside the point. Autopilot should immediately get the driver to take back control if something unexpected happens, and stop if the driver doesn't take over. Getting into an actual collision and just continuing to drive is absolutely the wrong behavior for a self-driving car.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 5 months ago (1 children)

You're supposed to stop and report it so they can come and get it so no one hits it and ends up more squishy then intended.

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[–] [email protected] 48 points 5 months ago (4 children)

Deer aren’t edge cases. If you are in a rural community or the suburbs, deer are a daily way of life.

As more and more of their forests are destroyed, deer are a daily part of city life. I live in the middle of a large midwestern city; in neighborhood with houses crowded together. I see deer in my lawn regularly.

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[–] [email protected] 37 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (3 children)

I notice nobody has commented on the fact that the driver should've reacted to the deer. It's not Tesla's responsibility to emergency brake, even if that is a feature in the system. Drivers are responsible for their vehicle's movements at the end of the day.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 5 months ago

True but if Tesla keeps acting like they're on the verge of an unsupervised, steering wheel-free system...this is more evidence that they're not. I doubt we'll see a cybercab with no controls for the next 10 years if the current tech is still ignoring large, highly predictable objects in the road.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 5 months ago

That would be lovely if it wasn't called and marketed as Full Self-Driving.

You sell vaporware/incomplete functionality software and release it into the wild, then you are responsible for all the chaos it brings.

[–] [email protected] 38 points 5 months ago (5 children)

Then it's not "Full self driving". It's at best lane assistance, but I wouldn't trust that either.

Elon needs to shut the fuck up about self driving and maybe issue a full recall, because he's going to get people killed.

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