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[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 hour ago

God I hope not. Why the fuck would we want to join the EU again?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 hours ago

It'll take at least that long for the EU member states to forgive the UK for its fuckery. The memory of Brexit will have to fade enough in their minds before it's even considered.

  • It's doubtful that the same deal will be on the table, as it would be politically untenable domestically.
  • Getting France and Germany on board will be hard, given that they enjoy much more powerful in our absence.
  • The risk of our exit again when our xenophobia acts up would have to be objectively low, or no member state would take the chance on approval lest we fuck over their economy again when we throw an egocentric racist tantrum.
[–] [email protected] 0 points 13 hours ago

I'd welcome them back today if I had a say. Just no extra sausage anymore.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

God yes please. And can we boot Farage off the island when it happens.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 hours ago

No. He needs to be trialed for treason, then jailed when found guilty.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

THE BRI'ISH PEOPLE VOTED FOR BREXIT GET OVER IT REMOANERS

[–] [email protected] 0 points 14 hours ago

Prime cut of gammon there.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 15 hours ago

I hope so. Though 15 years may be a bit optimistic. The UK has passed through the phase of leaving the EU being a benefit in itself (freeing it up to rule the waves once again unfettered by the whims of politically-correct vino-drinking bureaucrats and such), and, faced with the sunk cost of its folly, has retreated into denial. Brexit may have cost us dearly, it goes, but it’s a price we have to pay to be true to our destiny, rather than pretending to be just another small country interchangeable with Spaniards and Belgians. Eventually the fit of pique will end and the consensus will settle on Brexit being a bit shite, and there not being any meaningful glorious destiny for which it is a price worth paying, and the question is how do we become like the Spaniards or Belgians (or, indeed, the Irish), enjoying the conveniences of the EU. It may take a generation though.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 15 hours ago
[–] [email protected] 0 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

I can see clear calls in 15 years. But likely another 10-20 before those calls agree on any approach to join.

There will be a huge we should get what we had push making any actual agreement impossible.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

I expect (at least) one party will eventually adopt Rejoin as a distinguishing policy, and maybe sooner rather later.

But the appetite for Rejoin will probably depend on the shape of the UK economy and the political direction of the EU in 10+ years. If the Starmer project really has been delivering tangible growth by then, people may feel Brexit has (inadvertently) “worked” in the end. If the EU achieves greater and greater integration in the UK’s absence it may seem less palatable to enough voters.

Both of those are also going to be influenced by external factors like the direction of a possible Trump second term, the outcome of the war in Ukraine etc.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 14 hours ago

I would hypothesise now that the UK has left, France's proposals for a closer integrated EU standing army and two-speed EU are much more likely to go ahead.

Because of that I see a future in 20 years for something like a three-speed EU:

  1. Full integration.
  2. Free movement of goods and people.
  3. Mutual recognition of qualifications and frictionless framework for EU standard goods back and forth across the boarder. With a seat but no voting rights for the discussion of said standards.
[–] [email protected] 0 points 16 hours ago

His optimism for Britain to rejoin the bloc is not matched by Jean-Claude Juncker, another former European Commission chief, who in July suggested it would take “a century or two”.

Somewhere between 15 years and two centuries is a good guess.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 16 hours ago

It will be even funnier if Britain rejoins and then immediately leaves again.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 16 hours ago

The sooner the better. The architects and enablers of Brexit should be tried as traitors.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 16 hours ago

Ancient flag shagging Tories...... Hard Left Labour unions..... With these powers combined they become:

CAPTAIN BREXIT! He's their hero. Gonna bring the UK down to zero. Did a skid. Killed a kid. And crashed his balls on a dustbin lid.