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Saw a post without noticing the community and commented a genuine comment with good intentions.

Apparently it was against the rules of that community and I was banned.

Original post:

My (removed) comment:

And yeah, the last comment was sarcasm.

I just don't really understand why is there a community for shitting on Linux? Like I can get not liking it, and hating the Linux die hard fans, but it really is an amazing thing that is integral to almost all modern computing... Kind of like hating social media by having a facebook page for it.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 weeks ago

The Linux world have bad things, especially in userland and libc

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 weeks ago

When I was on reddit the ones spouting the most linux hate seemed to fall into two main categories.

  1. those that tried it like 15 years ago and still hold a grudge.

  2. dudes who heard people rave about linux but they themselves struggled with certain concepts when trying it out. And rather than realize they need to read instructions and learn new things, instead would rather blame linux for not working as expected.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 weeks ago

Linux is pretty advanced today. It's not a baby anymore.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

people who are new should be using immutable distros exclusively unless they're looking at this as a major project where they learn everything about it, IMHO

i've been helping people switch for a long time, all the dumbest things that have happened to people have been stopped by immutability.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

I just switched from Windows to Linux recently. Have gone from Zorin to Linux Mint and my friend likes Ubuntu. I would like to think that I watched a lot of videos and read a lot of articles before switching, but I've never heard of immutable distros. Could you please explain that term?

Edit: Grammar.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Yes, the short version is that immutability means that the filesystem (except for your home folder) is read-only and updated all at once.

This makes it so that updates never break the machine, and you can roll back to previous versions of the machine all at once, seamlessly.

For new people I always recommend fedora kinoite, but if you're highly experienced, immutability provides little value as you can always just chroot and unbreak the system yourself.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Yeah, that guy's not joking.

It's not some kayfabe act. He is sincere in all of that posturing assholery.

Block and move on.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 weeks ago

Seems like a year ago he was actually using Linux himself. Wondering what happened that made him feel so butthurt.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Unrelated but I got banned from the atheist memes community for calling one of the mods memes a boomer Facebook meme.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 weeks ago

It turns out, mods are gods.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

As an atheist, I cringe at nearly every post I see from that community. Makes me want to punch teenage neckbeard me in the face

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 weeks ago

Same. I imagine it's how most Christians feel about their loudest supporters as well

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

You should also take into account the animosity against lemmy.ml in general from some instances and communities. Something to do with the moderation here or something else.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

For this exact reason i feel the fediverse should operate on #hashtags and the user should subscribe to their mods who will mark content for exclusion and filtration.

Meaning that instead of a ultimatum users can participate regardless of if bad mods ruin a community as per reddit /r/linux being ruined by loco mods.

This fiefdom format where topics are arbitrated and drum headded by fief lords is archaic and antiquated.

When the wrong man uses the right means, then the right means work in the wrong way.

Its our job to create systems that prevent this as much as possible through good design.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 weeks ago

That's how aether works kind of.

It's P2P/decentralised rather than federated.

Anyone can make a community. With enough participation in a community one can become a mod. Mods can be impeached by vote of active participants.

Anyone can see nod actions and anyone can decide to disable the actions of any mod.

I love the system, I was active there before moving to Lemmy. I wish it had taken off/absorbed some of the Reddit fallout rather than Lemmy.

AFAIK it is not maintained or at least updated much less frequently than Lemmy/ActivityPub.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Pretty accurate meme though.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

Yeah.. I am in my Arch comfort zone, till I was forced to move on as the newest kernels of Arch triggered kernel Panics at my Starlite V device. Even the LTS version (and for some weird reason the rt kernel was the only one working without panics).

So someone said "Use NixOS, its great"... it felt cool at beginning, but sucked very soon as everything should be written into stone if you want changes on your system, and then reboot, because the switch command didn't really trigger enough changes. Netbeans was without Maven till I rebooted. I thought I sucked at adding it properly. Frustrating it was.

Then I tried MX Linux, just to realize that Debian has Ancient packages with many many bugs, like Okular having a broken Pinch-Zoom which is fixed after 23.31 or smth. Debian had version 22 of Okular. And I disliked that MX Linux used Plasma 5...

Another one recommends Void Linux, Gentoo, KDE Neon, OpenSuse Tumbleweed. Holy fuck pls filter it by Systemd only Operating Systems. (But still cool having lots od Linux users in my university group)

I finally decided to Install Kubuntu and actually... it feels like it will last forever (till a new Ubuntu Update comes in and destroys itself by its own Updating system. It never worked for me)

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 weeks ago

Gentoo has systemd instructions right alongside openrc through the whole installation handbook. Pretty sure opensuse is systemd also.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 weeks ago
[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I acquired the yarn, but i can't figure out how to compile it.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 weeks ago
  1. Find a pattern (preferably with the trans flag)
  2. Manually compile
  3. Post on unixsocks
[–] [email protected] 37 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

That whole community is just one guy posting memes. Some are funny but mostly its just odd how much he hates Linux.

Whatever :)

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

No, it's one person who is so unironically salty that they post memes about how much they hate Linux several times a day.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 weeks ago

Everyone has a hobby 🙃

[–] [email protected] 30 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Hummm... Guess you're to sensible? I mean I'm die hard linux lover for 3 years now and will never switch back to Windows... EVER!

However, I found some of those posts quite funny !

[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 weeks ago

Some of them are funny indeed

[–] [email protected] 12 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

It's the same argument I've heard about the "complexity" of Mastodon: too many choices, which is I guess why people largely stopped going to websites outside the major social networks. Monopoly over competition, it's like everyone is pining for a monarchy.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 weeks ago

Users say they want options until they receive way too many options

[–] [email protected] -2 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I read it as a jokey community and maybe you took it too seriously. Regardless that's a kinda silly comment to leave. That's a community for, ironically or seriously, hating Linux, so obviously it's not in the spirit of the community to leave a serious comment defending Linux.

I see a lot of Windows hate on Lemmy. If someone made a post here complaining about how much they hate Windows, and a Windows fan replied explaining why Windows is so great, I would say it's kinda heavy-handed but not totally ridiculous for a mod to ban them, since a Linux community is probably not for this person.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 weeks ago

The guy made 3+ pages of posts shitting on linux, all while nobody else posted and 95% of the posts were downvoted to shit. Nobody was laughing, the guy made real arguments, and genuinely seemed to have an issue with linux. I never detected any satire presonally.

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