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[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 minutes ago* (last edited 1 minute ago)

That ship has long sailed. Most teens will find a way and the ones that don't will be social rejects.

Social media is fundamentally a part of our social fabric. There's no going back on that. Instead, collectively we should promote healthier social networks not prohibit them. Norway is fucking stupid here.

Also, wtf are Norvegian parents doing with their infinite oil money they don't have time to care for their teens?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 hours ago (2 children)

Governmental overreach. Good luck trying to enforce this shit.

Social media isn't bad inherently. Addictive algorithms, violation of user privacy, etc. is bad.

Kids should be taught how to make use of social media for good. I was bullied quite a lot as a kid. Social media is what kinda brought me out of it.

Social media told 13 year old me, that it is alright to be gay. Social media is what made me interested in politics. A huge part of who I am today is because of the nice people I met online. Fuck the government for trying to take it away from others like me.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 20 minutes ago

Social media isn’t bad inherently. Addictive algorithms, violation of user privacy, etc. is bad.

Cigarettes aren't bad for you. It's just the burning tar and the nicotine.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 hour ago

While all of that may be true, it doesn't necessarily negate the adverse affects social media can also have on young people.

I think you got lucky and found a community that accepted and welcomed you. But a lot of kids aren't as fortunate, and their experiences with social media are a lot more sinister. Children are more exposed to predators and harassment now than ever before.

I dunno that a full "ban until ___ years old" policy is the cure, either. But it's a start.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

If this is any guide, maybe there should also be an upper age limit, too.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

You may use it only until you are 15. Alternately, you may choose any 15-year window in your life. Choose wisely.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 22 minutes ago

The wisest choice is no period at all

[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

I really dislike this sort of daddy over reach but it seems like this is the only way to make corpos get real about enforcement.

This would result needing to provide ID to use normie social media?

How would this even work globally and on places like fediverse tho?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago) (1 children)

Well the devil is in the detail. However, what appears is being mooted is it will only affect big social media corporations. A Lemmy instance is hardly big business. Not that I'm discounting creeping regulation moving into the fediverse.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

It's impossible to specifically target Facebook and Snapchat without also affecting Lemmy and YouTube comments.

They're all social media with minor UI differences.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 hour ago

You can if you specify plataforms that sell ads.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 hours ago (2 children)

Why does it incorrectly say limit in the headlines then correctly say minimum in the first sentence.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 15 minutes ago

I like the idea social media is for kids only and adults are banned. If that applies to advertisers and bots too then it could be a winner!

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 hours ago

A minimum is a type of limit.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 3 hours ago (2 children)

"Are you 15 or more years old? Y/N"

There, that fixed the problem.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

IIRC Norway has an actual Nat ID system, so assuming they develop a workable API for it ðis could actually be implemented quite easily.

Preventing kids stealing ðeir parents' IDs to open accounts anyway will be ð actual challenge.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 hour ago (2 children)

Is there a reason that you use some character (I'm afraid I don't know the name of it) wherever you would otherwise use "th"? I can't guess if it's some kind of technical issue with federated text, something from a different language you're incorporating, or one of those "I think we should add x symbol to the language so I'll use it to draw attention to the effort" deals, like with the people that use the combined !? symbols whenever both are relevant at once.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 31 minutes ago

A møøse once bit my sister.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

.... I'm also one of ðose people ðat uses ð interrobang

[–] [email protected] 3 points 28 minutes ago

Wow, aren't you a hip cat.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

If they admit they're below the age of 15 they should be banned until they reach the mature age.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 hours ago (2 children)

That'll get them. No one under 15 has any idea what a VPN is.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 26 minutes ago* (last edited 26 minutes ago)

How hard up are you for Facebook? Like, there's a technical solution, sure. But a big part of social media's addictive quality is ease of access.

Making access annoying absolutely will curb teen use.

[–] [email protected] -4 points 2 hours ago

Could also age gate ð VPNs wiðin Norwegian networks. Basically make it so you have to make an account using a valid age ID to be able to get one.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 hours ago

I hope they've written a very broad definition of social media.