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Piracy is so confusing these days (hexbear.net)

submitted 9 months ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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It was so easy when I was growing up. I would just type my search into LimeWire and if it turned out to be weird porn I would delete it. Then we had The Pirate Bay, and I could go through reviews to see whether something was a virus or not. Now all public sites I am aware of are riddled with viruses, and I am warned that attempting to download any of them will result in me receiving threatening letters from copyrights holders in the post.

Here is what I have discovered today, trying to pirate things again:

The safest thing you can do is direct download from file share websites, but nobody says where these websites are.
If you want to torrent files, you need to subscribe to an exclusive private tracker. To get access to a private tracker, you need to get lucky, or you need to go through a painstaking process of levelling up over months and months of seeding torrents from semi-private trackers until you get to an actual good one that may or may not have the content you are looking for.
If you don't want to do this, you need to pay for a UseNet provider, then you need to register for a similarly exclusive UseNet index service, probably paid as well. There is no guarantee you will find what you are looking for on here either, and there is a chance that your download will fail.
Whether you are using torrents or UseNet, you need a service to help you find the content in the first place, for example Sonarr, Radarr or Lidarr. Something called Jackett also fits into this somehow and apparently links to whatever indexes you are using.
If you are torrenting, you then need a torrent client such as qBitTorrent to actually get the files.
If you are using UseNet, you need a UseNet downloader such as jdownloader.
Alternatively, for either option you can pay for a Debrid service such as Real-Debrid or Premiumize to download the files for you, if you send them the links. Besides protecting your privacy and your bandwidth, these services are also great for bypassing the limits on the elusive direct download sites nobody can tell me any more about.

I don't really think of myself as a stupid person but this shit is so confusing. It is harder than paying for drugs on the dark web with illegal crypto currency. Am I nearly there? Is this everything? If I pay for a UseNet provider and somehow register for a UseNet index, is it as simple as connecting the two together to something such as Sonarr to find the content and jdownloader to get it?

I just wanna have my own home streaming service.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

Some of what you've listed isn't exactly confusing - they're just pirates who are gamifying piracy and in the honest pirating ways - that's disrespectful.

Direct downloading can be easy but also not easy. File sharing sites do adhere to requests from copyright holders or anyone filing complaints will get the content taken down in time. The biggest blow of this is Uloz where you could practically find anything on it and download, at the cost of spending time if you don't want to pay for speedy downloads.

But most of the time, direct downloading is a whack a mole game. Maybe people aren't telling others because they could be sharing outdated information, almost nobody can be sure whether the content will still be there. Furthermore, it is frustrating because you have to weed through so much bullshit like ads, redirect links and more just to get to a single working DDL link. I'd know, I've done this many times.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 9 months ago

I just download from whatever site's available on the megathread..

[–] [email protected] 16 points 9 months ago

1337x.to, qbittorrent, vpn if your isp cares. Dodi, fitgirl, johncena141 for games. For audio, video, books, just don't be dumb and open bee_movie.mp4.exe and you'll be fine.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 9 months ago

It is a very difficult topic - I use slsk private trackers and now try to revive airdc++ my data set is around 60TB - it is pain in ass to manage -HDD's fail, you need to salvage the data, also buy a new bigger ones, ssd's also fail. Internet connection is limited, and the MASSIVE amount of data being produced these dayz... I also run I2P and IPFS nodes, TOR snowflake. And it is massive pain that alphatracker is down... also the rarbg loss. Please keep calm, everything will be fine, I have to mention that I live in a grey country - no need for vpn - that really helps.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 9 months ago

Really can't get the point of the post

I'm enjoying rutracker + tpb. Very easy, very fast, always find what I want

[–] [email protected] 6 points 9 months ago (2 children)

I still don't have a single clue of what Sonarr and Radarr actually are. And, man, I've searched it all over, nothing's ever clear

[–] [email protected] 9 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

Sonarr and Radarr are just some apps that handle the searching, download queueing, and organizing for movies and shows respectively.

You can tell them what media you want and in what quality/file size. They then use another app (Jackett, Prowlarr) to search a list of your preferred websites. They analyze the results and pick a download that best fits your quality specifications. They then send those results to your download client and move/copy/link the finished downloads to your specified media directory. They also rename your downloaded media files according to a scheme that you can define to your liking. In this way your media library stays clean and organized.

Basically you set them up once and then whenever you want something you just add it to your library on either Sonarr or Radarr depending on if you want a movie or a show. The apps handle the rest of the process for you. Additionally, they will periodically search your list of websites for media you already have and can replace what you have with versions that better align with your quality preferences.

To make things even simpler for the end user (presumably you), you can also set up apps like Jellyseerr or Overseerr that act as a front end to Sonarr and Radarr. You can search in a quick and convenient way for the media you want, and these front end apps will add them the appropriate Sonarr or Radarr library. Coupled with a media server like Jellyfin, the pirate's workflow essentially becomes this: 1) navigate to your request page, 2) select what you want to watch, 3) wait for it to appear on your media server, 4) watch it.

Edit: fixed a subject-verb agreement problem.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago (3 children)

What's the advantage of downloading these over setting up the qbittorrent search function to search multiple torrent sites when I type something in there, as it does for me now?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

you don't need to search anything. that's the difference. you add a TV show and it downloads every new episode according to your specifications as they come out. for movies automated downloads are less relevant but it rename, organizes, adds metadata etc. also you can add a movie before it is released and it will download the movie when to becomes available.

So, automated search, download, rename, organize etc. Not necessary at all. Just a convenience for those who like that sort of thing.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

Ohhh okay! That party sounds pretty good actually. There are a couple episodes of some TV shows I'd love to have that I'm missing lol

[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 months ago

It also picks up new episodes as they air.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago

They allow you to search for files of a specific size range and resolution automatically based on profiles that you configure during the setup process. Once configured, you just tell them what movie or show you want and they take care of everything else. 15 minutes later (or however long it takes to download) the files will appear in your library ready to watch. Also, for stuff that hasn't been released yet, it will monitor those and download them automatically once someone uploads a copy.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I've never used the qBittorrent search function so if everything mentioned in my earlier comment is included in qBittorrent directly, then I don't know. Use what works best for you. As I understand it, the main appeal of the *arr stack is that it does everything automatically and without you having to intervene to get what you want.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I imagine that qBittorrent doesn't automatically search for better versions of your media, automatically rename and move files to your specification, automatically evaluate search results to choose a download that matches your desired quality, automatically search for desired media when it is released (like new episodes of a currently running TV show), automatically import subtitle files or extras to your library, or automatically grab metadata for all your media.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I imagine that qBittorrent doesn't automatically search for better versions of your media, automatically rename and move files to your specification, automatically evaluate search results to choose a download that matches your desired quality, automatically search for desired media when it is released (like new episodes of a currently running TV show), automatically import subtitle files or extras to your library, or automatically grab metadata for all your media.

Those parts do sound pretty good lol

[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 months ago

You add a desired show/movie and it searches selected trackers and downloads the torrent(s) through a configured torrent client. Not hard to understand really.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Oh man.

Stremio + torrentio plugin + real debrid subscription.

I used Usenet and then torrents for 20 years or so but this stremio stack allowed me to get rid of all that *arr crap, also VPN, and private trackers et cetera. Not to mention a hot, power hungry home server.

Others will be along to disagree with me any moment, but for me this stack is infinitely better.

Downloading and storing stuff doesn't make any sense in the era of unlimited data.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

Someone has to seed though. I don’t know much about seedboxes but it seems like a seed box + plex combo is a solid way to go.

The home server route is way more complicated than rd+stremio for sure, but is still necessary in some contexts. I keep one just for kids content bc there’s no way to separate it out using stremio that I’ve found so far. It’s a bit of a pain to set up but with docker it’s not so bad. Stremio + rd for everything else.

Anything is better than watching fucking ads

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago (2 children)

docker

why use a docker at all? What is the potential benefit?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 months ago

Docker silos your apps into VMs called containers so if it malfunctions, the entire server doesn't need to reboot only the docker container. You can also wall off select containers' network access through VPNs and allow others through. Seems to work a bit better than split tunneling for me

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago

The config files make it easy to repeat functioning setups and guaranteed software compatibility

[–] [email protected] 29 points 9 months ago

My two cents, piracy is not necessarily more complicated than it ever was at its simplest, but the potential for enhanced automation and security is MUCH higher than it used to be. That's the complex part.

I'm one of the lucky private tracker people. If I wasn't in there, I'd go all in on Usenet.

[–] [email protected] 34 points 9 months ago (1 children)

P2p is the way the web naturally flowed, protocols like bittorrent wore able to distribute content better than giant streaming companies without relying on giant infrastructure.

Now sharing is frowed upon, hosting your own server at home is frowed upon, the web used to be more made by users, now to do anything you need to go through a big company.

The difficulties you face on piracy is just a reflection of how capitalism is fucking the web.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 9 months ago

seems that way

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