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[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 hours ago

Shouldve been banned three years ago, but those investors wouldn’t make buck. Now that they did we can care for the environment.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 hours ago

Good. We had perfectly reasonable rebuildables for so long.

And then Juul made disposables popular and in came waves of China disposables.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 hours ago

I saw a disposable vape with a screen and Bluetooth/mic built in. You could play games on it and take calls. That is a ridiculous amount of e-waste.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

we need a clean, biodegradable version of vapes. maybe use some form of paper? and instead of juice just use the actual leaves from the tobacco plant

[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Would this create less waste than buying one vape and using it forever?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 hours ago

It would fuck up the environment with butts like it always has. Cigs are shit for the environment, birds eat them and die and they're everywhere. Can't wait for them to completely die out.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 12 hours ago (2 children)

Wow, I normally don't think of England when it comes to countries who have their shit together!

[–] [email protected] 0 points 12 hours ago

I think we just get by by knowing we're better than Northern Ireland.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 12 hours ago

Don’t get used to it.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 12 hours ago

now where will bigclive get free discarded lithium cells?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 14 hours ago
[–] [email protected] 0 points 20 hours ago (2 children)

Hear that noise? That's the sound of organized criminal smuggling gangs celebrating being given their new market.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 12 hours ago

I really can't see that happening when perfectly legal alternatives are like 20 quid. People aren't exactly going out of the way to do things via the illegal method, just because

[–] [email protected] 0 points 20 hours ago

Disposable vapes, not vapes in general

Banning disposable vapes are just a strictly positive thing

[–] [email protected] 0 points 22 hours ago (3 children)

But not disposable lighters?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Lighters last a super long time and they don’t contain batteries which is the real concern.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago)

Lighters last a super long time

flashbacks to last 4th of July where we needed to get 4 different disposable lighters before one worked
Not that the actual lighters are any better, those dry out on their own with no use.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

I've never seen a "disposable" lighter that didn't have a gas filling hole.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

went to my junk drawer and got one, Doesn't have anything on the bottom and top won't come off without breaking

[–] [email protected] 0 points 10 hours ago

You can actually remove it pretty easily. I recall because I removed that shiny metal bit so I could follow a life hack video that allows you to increase the flame size. I'm sure you could take it off and refill it.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 21 hours ago

disposable vapes come with built in lithium batteries, while (most) disposable lighters don’t. so there is a very real difference between the two. but disposal lighters are also stupidly wasteful, so it would be nice to ban those as well.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

Yeah, good luck with that. Nobody is regulating any of it so the rules might as well be advisory only.

Seemingly every dodgy corner shop sells high strength disposable vapes already, so I don't know why they'd stop because of this...

[–] [email protected] 0 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

In the same fashion that cigarettes are no longer on display in stores this will absolutely have an effect. The supply chain will eventually evaporate so once stores are out of stock it'll no longer be common place. Sure, they could be imported but stores that don't comply won't be common and will stick out easily.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 21 hours ago

I don't think cigarettes being out of view lead to their decrease, nor all the warnings or pictures of diseases. It's more that they cost about £15 a pack. Honestly feels like weed has already overtaken cigarettes.

I know they mean well, and disposables are spectacularly wasteful, but I can also see the appeal of a cheap, no maintenance, no mess, no faff vape.

And from a purely selfish point of view, I'd rather smell Fruit Salad smelling vapes everywhere than cigarettes or more bloody weed.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

it's insane they ever took hold. in the 20 fucking 20s. people look at my refillable mod like I'm holding a walkman

[–] [email protected] 0 points 23 hours ago (4 children)

As someone who is using a nicotine vape to wean off of nicotine, I still don't understand why people buy disposable ones.

It's less cost-effective, less customizable, and more sketchy.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Agree, I make my own liquid/coils/wicks and it doesn't come to more than 20 quid a month

[–] [email protected] 0 points 10 hours ago

Are you able to order nicotine?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Someone said it's an easy thing to get and "flavourful". There's plenty of cheap expensive vapes... I've seen coworkers with £250 on the unit itself and they have to clean it and replace coils? I can understand someone wanting a care free alternative" that works".

Not for me, just answering your question based on what I was told.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

My rig cost me $50, a month's worth of juice and coils is $40.

I see the big expensive rigs and I don't want to spend that much on something I'm hoping to use for a couple years, max. Plus if I lose it I'm out a ton.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 10 hours ago

Where do you live? I'm in Canada and the government is making it super expensive to vape here it sucks.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 19 hours ago

Personally I think they're useful for one thing and one thing only, a gig/night out. When you don't want to have some kind of battery pack to recharge your vape so you have a couple disposables in your pocket, and if you lose it, shrug, it cost a couple quid.

That said, I back this ban wholeheartedly

[–] [email protected] 0 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

It's easy.

It's closer in spirit to buying a pack of smokes, it's easy to just grab one on the way somewhere, less of an issue if you lose it or have to toss it(like at some concert venues), easier to give to your friends, and generally they are much smaller, so easier to conceal.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

Maybe I've just been lucking out, but every concert venue I've been to recently has let me in with my vape. I usually tell the security person I have it on me, and then they tell me it's fine and pass me through. You're right though, it would suck to have to toss it.

I don't agree with the "smaller" part though. Most of the disposable units I see are thicker and wider than my refillable one, since they need to be long-lasting as a value proposition. I think the main draw is probably pure convenience.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 18 hours ago

Definitely pure convenience and flavor.

Wife bought one (even though we have refillables) and damn if it doesn't taste really fucking good, hits perfectly without needing to fuck with it.

Still don't think we should make it a regular thing because it's so wasteful

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Obviously prohibition doesn't work, but banning disposables specifically should be mandated everywhere. It is insane that a product that contains rechargeable lithium batteries is not rechargeable, or if it is it must be thrown away after less than a month.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Well it'll work in this case because they're not banging people from doing something they're banning companies from doing something.

If a product is not available for sale then it's difficult for people to purchase it

[–] [email protected] 0 points 12 hours ago

Not really, in places with decriminalized but not legal weed there's still a lot of weed in all forms being distributed.

What will make this work is that they didn't ban flavors or non disposable vape devices.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 14 hours ago

People throw them out of their car windows too. I see them on the ground all the time. Insanity.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 22 hours ago (2 children)

I think in this case prohibition should work fine...

The alternative is just... Get a non-disposable one and learn a bit of maintenance. Jesus.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 hours ago

Disposable vapes are easier to hide from parents since you can just throw them away, and also you don't have to worry too much if your teacher confiscates them because they're disposable.

With a non-disposable vape, suddenly things become a lot harder for vaping teenagers.

I'm not suggesting we let teenagers vape, I'm just saying there's a reason teenagers like the disposable ones.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

I use a disposable vape now and I was adamant about not using one because of the wastefulness, until they banned flavored vape liquid in my state.

It started to get really hard to buy coils for my vape, because it became unprofitable for these companies to operate here, and then even harder to find the liquid I enjoy.

Non-disposable ones tend to be bulky too. Not to mention the maintenance is a huge pain in the ass. The non-disposable vapes tend to leak. Doesn't matter which one you use. If you don't prime the coil correctly they burn out in a few puffs, and you just wasted 5+ bucks on the coil you've been searching for. Coils only tend to last a few days to a week as well. So you're always on this search to find coils. Also reusable ones only last for a few months to maybe a year anyway (if you're lucky), then you have to spend 100+ on a new one.

Sure you could get the little pod ones but now you're being wasteful because you can't reuse those either, and break twice as fast.

Now I can buy 2 disposables that last a month, don't leak, don't take a lot of real estate in my pocket, are significantly cheaper, is easier to find, and the flavor is always consistent.

I would've been fine with my reusable one until they banned the products that allowed me to use it.

So yeah prohibition doesn't work. You ban this people will just go back to smoking. Which is just as wasteful and way more toxic.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

I'm so cute infused by this. I have a reusable weed pen that has zero of these issues. The product just comes in a sealed container and you screw it into the base.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

Yes, because the "product that comes in a sealed container" is actually the entire vape including the coil, the base you screw it into is nothing more than the battery and charging electronics

That's still preferable over throwing away the battery as well, but it's still a disposable vape

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 day ago

People should be boofing nicotine pouches like God intended anyhow.

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