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[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago

And those 79% should never get an abortion if they do become pregnant and leave everyone else the fuck alone.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Our, maybe try a slightly less sexist approach and look at the religion these people follow. In my experience, abortion has never been a man/woman issue, it's a religious one

[–] [email protected] -4 points 2 days ago

Idk how to respectfully say this, but you are being so vengeful toward religion that you forgot the intersectionality of gender and sex to that equation. This is not to invalidate your feelings, but that I find your statement invalidating a large part of this topic for no reason.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 days ago
[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

As one of the 21% who support abortion I think this statement is a little cavalier. The numbers tell more than one story.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Here's a pew research thing finding about 61% of men supporting abortion in the US in 2024; lagging behind women at 64% but not by much

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Nice. Research shows 5 out of 4 polls are misleading.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Well, one is a poll, one is a meme with no data source or explanation of what's been done to get to the possibly not very correct number

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago

And pew research is one the the least biased sources someone could reference

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 days ago (1 children)

It's not saying that 79% of men are abortion opponents.

It's saying that 79% of abortion opponents are men.

Those two statements are very different.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago

Oh yeah I read it wrong. Nevertheless, the point is that this one statistic doesn't tell a whole story.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

i think that we should start referring to it as child sacrifice++.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Weird how many pro-lifers also support the death penalty.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago

So if we make refusal to vacate a uterus a capital offense, we have a path to compromise

[–] [email protected] -1 points 2 days ago (3 children)

99% of people who are opposed to murder will never be murdered, the numbers speak for themselves.

Pro choice just thought the argument was a little funny lol

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

They all could be the victim though.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Men can get pregnant too it's just not the norm

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 days ago

No they can't.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

I'd say the intersection between "men who can get pregant" and "men who strongly oppose abortion" has to be almost nonexistant.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

And the intersection between murderers and those opposed to murders is almost non existent.

Man am I regreting using murder as an analogy I really should've thought that through a bit better in hindsight XD

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 days ago (2 children)

They can be murdered though, unlike being pregnant, which I think is the point. The wording should better reflect that.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 days ago

not with that attitude

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

There are men who can be pregnant it's just not the norm

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

How many trans men are against abortion? I doubt it's any significant percent of their demographic

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Wouldn't 99% of people who are opposed to murder will never be a murderer the more reflective statement here?

Also pro-choice.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago

Ye you're right I'm a failure of a commenter 😭

[–] [email protected] 20 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Plenty of men support abortion - it removes financial responsibility from them, after all. Protests at abortion clinics are often held by women as much as men.

The more important demographic here is that most opposed to abortion are strongly religious.

Look outside the US and you'll see that countries that do support choice are less influenced by the Church. It's not coincidence.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Almost as if claiming a simple statistic tells the whole story doesn't tell the whole story.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 days ago

And many of the men who oppose abortions, are massive fucking hypocrits who will gladly have their mistress get an abortion somewhere else.

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