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A new poll suggests that Green Party presidential candidate Jill Stein is drawing more voters from former President Donald Trump than from Vice President Kamala Harris.

According to a Noble Predictive Insights survey released last week, Harris holds a narrow lead over Trump in a hypothetical three-way race. With Stein on the ballot, Harris' lead expands, pointing to a potential spoiler effect similar to what many Democrats blamed Stein for doing to Hillary Clinton in the 2016 election.

For Trump, the emergence of Stein as a potential spoiler may be a critical factor in battleground states, where even a small shift in votes could determine the outcome. For Harris, Stein's candidacy could paradoxically provide an unexpected advantage, drawing votes from Trump and narrowing his pathway to victory.

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[–] [email protected] 48 points 2 days ago (8 children)

Libs will still blame leftists like blue maga wants them to.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 days ago

"No shit," seth suggests.

[–] [email protected] 40 points 2 days ago (7 children)

I'm struggling really hard to see which voter is on the fence between Trump and Stein. Wouldn't it be more likely to be on the fence between Stein and Harris, or Stein and the couch?

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Jill Stein is providing spite voters an option to not vote for Donald Trump.

Hillary took a lot of friendly fire in 2016 from the Bernie Bros who were not too happy.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 2 days ago (2 children)

It’s a fun thing to tell yourself, but more Sanders voters voted for Clinton in 2016 than Clinton voters voted for Obama in 2008.

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[–] [email protected] 27 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

I think Trump draws a lot of broad support from his 'anti-establishment' rhetoric so it kinda makes sense for folks to look to other anti-establishment candidates as an alternative to him. There's a tendency to look down upon Trump voters as only right wingers, conspiracists etc and not really understand that a lot of his support is superficial and based on limited information.

In a way it's not so much that Stein or other left candidates are spoilers for the establishment Dems but more the case that figures like Trump are spoilers for progressive alternatives to the establishment.

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[–] [email protected] 41 points 2 days ago (4 children)
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Jill Stein releases a statement: "To be clear, I only want Kamala votes please! Only former Kamala voters!"

[–] [email protected] 43 points 2 days ago (2 children)
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[–] [email protected] 114 points 2 days ago (3 children)

I won't believe a single poll until this election is over. There is so much incentive for misinformation out there it is unbearable. Just get out and vote.

[–] [email protected] 35 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 days ago (1 children)

What about four-way race? Some states still have RFK on the ballot 🥴

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

In Illinois, we had RFK and no Jilly-bean.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago

Yep. Thought that was weird since he dropped out.

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