I don't hate Democrats, I just disagree with them.
I hate Republicans, and will side with Democrats if it can keep Republicans out of power.
this post was submitted on 22 Oct 2024
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Why don't you hate the party currently aiding a genocide? Seems worthy of hatred unless that's not one of the things you disagree with them about.
You should hate them. GOP will just genocide harder. Vote the GOP to oblivion until they won't rise anymore then the dems are the "right wing demons" where they belong. Then vote more progressive. Rinse repeat until we live in a solar punk society.
I admire your optimism that we can reach a solar punk society via voting. I'm not being glip I do admire it. Optimism is important and I have lost maybe too much of it.
The GOP will certainly try to genocide harder and they are absolutely repugnant. Anyone voting for them is absolute deranged.
Part of being solar punk is optimism. Voting is the Only peaceful option I know of. So long as GOP is threat we will never have progress to vote third party. DNC knows this and uses it against us.
Classic trolley problem and you have failed it.
You want to hate the guy for pulling the lever that leads to fewer deaths at the expense of allowing the one who will ignore the lever and allow for the most death.
I didn't say I wouldn't pull the lever. I asked why you wouldn't hate the person who tied everyone to the tracks. Even if you pull the lever and kill fewer I would despise the person who set up the problem at all.
The person who set up the problem isn't on the ballot.
We're voting for the person at the lever.
Hatred isn't going to change anything. One could argue that hatred is how people end up in the tracks.
The whole "lesser evil" term is weird. It's about moving the Overton window.
The problem in conversations is that there's a serious dissonance stemming from different individuals (forget about groups even) defining "lesser evil" as well as what constitutes "hate" and "condemnation."
The issue in any event is one that people familiar with the space are accustomed to -- leftists are, almost without fail, absolutists unable to conceive of policy because of their conviction in the correctness of their esoteric political philosophies. It's a group where second-order thinking is heresy because it may call into question a talking point which has been adopted as doctrine and which one must be seen as espousing lest they lose their status as a member of the group.
There's a reason that progressives have been so successful around the world, while leftists are stuck posting in insular online communities or preaching to the already converted when in public.
Hear hear idealists crumble when the rubber meets the road. They find it difficult to live in reality without an all or nothing kinda mindset
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