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[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

Can you support "the political prisoners of Palestine Action"?

Can you say "Palestine Action is not a terrorist organization"?

Can you say "Outlawing Palestine Action is terrorism"?

Or is that also illegal?

Fucking fascists... A sad end to the Labour Party, but it was clear what would happen after they stabbed Corbyn in the back.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 17 hours ago

Hold up one saying "I support Yevette Cooper", i doubt they'll arrest you for that.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

Fascists? Virtually the entire house of commons voted them a terrorist organisation, not just Labour. That was because they attacked UK military aircraft on a UK military base and concocted an excuse for doing it. That got them branded terrorists.

This does not in any way stop people rallying for Palestine or the appalling inhuman injustices they're suffering. I'm sure there are marches happening all the time, not to mention charities to donate to, social media feeds to amplify atrocities. Just don't attack UK bases or support those who do and you'll be fine.

As for Corbyn, he wasn't "stabbed in the back". He lost two general elections in a row and he resigned. If he was still there for the last election he'd be sitting in opposition in charge of an even smaller party surrounded by a clique. He was not some saviour for Labour, he was the bane of it.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago) (1 children)

"Terrorism, in its broadest sense, is the use of violence against non-combatants to achieve political or ideological aims."

If you call this terrorism, you can call anything terrorism, and anybody can be a terrorist. If you're willing to do that to aid the Israel fascist state, that makes you a fascist. Yes, the entire house of commons are fascists.

And sure, that was very much illegal and they could have used any number of laws applicable to attacking a military base. Just not terrorism. But the UK military is involved in a partnership in the gaza war. They are not "non-combatants"

[–] [email protected] -3 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

It's what UK law considers terrorism.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

the military does not deserve any protection from citizens and should never be an excuse to call people terrorists.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 13 hours ago

Right. Doesn't change the fact about UK law considering their actions terroristic.. You know, what this thread is about.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The moron, Yvette Cooper thinks that this is the sort of violent thug that needs to be locked up whilst neo nazi and other hate groups causing direct harm to (checks notes) voters continues unabated.

https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/1536/cpsprodpb/8d95/live/2ee739a0-59ba-11f0-9074-8989d8c97d87.jpg.webp

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Two neo-Nazi groups were proscribed at the same time…

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 day ago

There's a palpable difference in daily harms to UK residents, whether physical or online.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago

Even on the middle east eye YouTube I'm seeing so many appeals to authority and "it's illegal, simple as. Full stop. Not for debate".

Not sure if brigading or what but it really worries me how people think.

It's not like they're stupid, it's like it's uncomfortable for them to think.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Palestine Action are heroes. We should be singing songs about them, not prosecuting them.

Remember, legality and morality are only vaguely related. Beyond the natural crimes of murder, rape, etc. laws are just politics by another name. And the wealthy and powerful write laws to advance their own corrupt interests. Many moral obligations are criminalized, and many things that if there is a Hell will surely get you sent there are perfectly legal.

Those planes deserved to be vandalized. Hell, they deserved to be set on fire. It's a shame they weren't destroyed completely. If those planes are being used to carry out a genocide, then they should be destroyed. That is the simple absolute moral truth. If the law says otherwise, then the law is wrong. Anyone violating it still needs to keep the consequences in mind. But outside observers should not be afraid to speak truth to power. What Palestine Action did was not wrong; it was an act of heroism. The UK should be electing these people to parliament, not prosecuting them. Want courageous leaders who will actually stand up to powerful interests and do the right thing, even when it's hard? Well it seems you just found that exact rare kind of person right here.

Destroying planes that are bound to assist in bombing in Gaza is simply the morally right thing to do, regardless of the law. It's no different than a Jewish resistance fighter in the 1940s setting fire to a cattle train about to go collect prisoners for transport to Dachau. Sometimes destruction of government property is the only morally correct choice available to people.

And we shouldn't be afraid to say this. People in the UK should be contacting their politicians demanding a full pardon for these heroes.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 18 hours ago

Those planes deserved to be vandalized. Hell, they deserved to be set on fire. It’s a shame they weren’t destroyed completely. If those planes are being used to carry out a genocide, then they should be destroyed.

The planes were totally unrelated to what's going on in Gaza.

Destroying planes that are bound to assist in bombing in Gaza

What's the indication these planes would do that? Israel doesn't even need British tanker planes to fly the tiny distance to Gaza.

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