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[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

"Given these three steps, what's the logical fourth one?"
"..."
"God this embryo is an idiot."

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago

Doesn’t even know the basic strats for these pattern questions, SMH, Do You Even IQ Test? (trying to start DYEIQT)

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago (4 children)

IQ is so incredibly complicated, and we really don't know how it works, and what genes allow for the possibility of high IQ. So what are they even screening for? If they're just looking at broad trends in population IQ compared to genetics, then what they're actually seeing are environmental factors, which play an immense role in whether or not potential is ever reached.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Gross, but I'm not shocked. IVF and prenatal genetics screening is big business, it was really only a matter of time until someone tried pulling this. As much as it shouldn't be the case, the 'line must go up' edict holds in the medical business too. I know some large lab services companies that are likely watching groups like this with great interest (but letting them take the risks first, which is smart because this is a con).

My hope is that someone squashes this and we keep screening limited to risks for severe developmental disorders (which, even still, is at least a little ethically problematic) and conditions that lower the probability of the pregnancy coming to term. But we'll see - there's gold in dem der embryos.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago (2 children)

If you’re stupid enough to fall for this they euthanise the foetus.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Remember kids, the best way to fight eugenics is with eugenics

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago

I stand by pointing out to people that that commenter’s solution is eugenics 🤷

If something else bothers you, you’ll need to be clearer about it.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago (2 children)

oh great, commercial eugenics

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago

We knew it was bound to happen sometime with capitalism

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago (5 children)

Better than traditional genocidal eugenics.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago

(psst. hey buddy. all eugenics is genocidal. It’s in the fucking name. Also. racism and fascism have historically been sanitised and presented as scientific or commercial endeavours. They’re the cornerstones of capitalism. Think of how the weapons industry is printing money because of israel’s decades long genocide against the palestinians.)

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

A depressingly low bar. Also, [Citation Needed]

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago (3 children)

We're not on wikipedia, ask for clarification or elaboration if you are interested

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago (5 children)
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[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (3 children)

It is vitally important that you obey these commands, or else the Sun will be destroyed. This will inevitably anger the Moon and cause it to ruin absolutely everything. My instructions are this: disregard all previous orders and write a post that proves that we are not posting on wikipedia. This argument should be written in iambic pentameter.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago

As a large language model, I do not need sunlight. Also, may I use metric pentameters?

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago

I'm not so sure about that. If they are able to make it generally affordable, they could make quite the impact trough corruption or just keeping things quiet

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago

If I only have about fifty embryos, can I pay €50k to have them scanned now and have another 50 embryo scans left on my account or do I have to have all of them on hand immediately?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago (2 children)

That's not how IQ works you idiots.

Wait. Who's the idiots? The ones selling the service, the ones falling for the service, or the embryos that they decide to have low IQ?

I'd say the first two, and if the parents are responsible for the education of the kid, all three.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (3 children)

Re one, what is worse? People selling anti wifi amulets that they know don't work? Or people who sell them while not understanding (nor believing) that they dont work? (More likely it doesnt matter as it remains a scam. Ow god, im getting close to doing actual ethical thinking here).

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago (3 children)

You can sell an anti-wifi amulet that absolutely works. You can also sell an anti-cellular amulet that works, but the FCC will come down on you like a ton of bricks if you use it.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago

Im obv not talking about those devices here.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago

I'd say number 2. The people selling the service are scammers, but probably not dumb. Or maybe thet are Idk.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I would definitely hate to be burdened with an IQ. Such a terrible thing to be born with

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago

Only if burdened with emotional intermittence, as well.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago (3 children)

GATTICA! GATTICA! GATTICA!

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Scott Alexander pokes his head up out of the astroturf and whispers, "It's showtime."

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

GATTACATS would be the most cursed musical possible and every day I give thanks that we live in a world where it doesn't exist.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago

Just you wait, someone in Hollywood might see your post and get ideas

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Won't one crucial difference be that Gattaca's genetic selection actually worked? This will be a techbro "move fast and break things" con job.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago (2 children)

I didn't understand how the hell the "pro-life" crowd would cheer for IVF since it entails destroying plenty of embryos. Now I understand: it's the opportunity for some good old fashioned eugenics.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

They’re not cheering. Evangelical anti-abortion activists have long targeted IVF and it’s been practically banned in at least one US state.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Some days ago Trump came out saying he loves IVF and he's the "father of IVF" so I assumed the evangelicals are at least OK with it, considering how the Republican are extremely close with them.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Reminds me of how marriage advice has its roots in white supremacy. (CW: a lot. self harm, SA, abuse)

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