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13% of Democrats agree with Trump on that.

What the actual fuck?

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago (10 children)

I'm struggling here to avoid being offensive - but really, Americans often appear to me to be averaging subhuman intelligence.

Yesterday I was reading about Latino MAGA's who just assume Trump isn't talking about them...

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago

I'm not saying America is the center of world intellectualism, but you're also getting quite a selection bias since "stupid American" stories are even popular to other Americans.

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I agree.

America for Native Americans.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago

Which bloodline would that be? The great Royal bloodline of the Ancient American Empire?

What about all those people saying they're 1/16th Cherokee?

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

There are only a few counties in the world that draw the smartest and most accomplished from the rest of the world. The USA is pretty high on that list. This gives the USA an unfair advantage worldwide in several ways:

US schools and businesses get to pick from the best and brightest worldwide, promoting an atmosphere of high performance STEM jobs.

US replaces lost high education and high IQ population, since there is a negative correlation between education level and reproduction.

Finally, if you think in terms of winners vs losers, which I feel MAGAs do these days,, other countries lose their best and brightest, making them less competitive to the USA.

And of course don't forget that the vast majority of Americans come from families that immigrated, and few would argue that they themselves should be sent back "to where they came from".

No matter how you look at it, immigration is extremely advantageous to the USA if handled properly and an enviable position that many other countries wish they could be in.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 month ago

Seems like the usual 1/3 that agrees with trump on whatever. Not gonna change.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 month ago

"think of how dumb the average guy is. Now remember that half the population is dumber than him." -- George Carlin.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

Something something and soil something something nazi

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

The Trump campaign doesn't hammer the immigration issue just because they're xenophobic racists. They also do it because it's one of the few issues that they can run hard on that rallies their base and has the potential to attract some democrats.

People that hate immigrants from either party consider it a central issue, so because it's so charged, there are actually a small subset of democrats that will hold their nose and vote for Trump because of this single issue.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

13% of Democrats agree with Trump on that.

More proof of fake respondents. Basically some people, for whatever reason (depending on the poll it could be financial) just speed run the polls with no thought about what they're clicking on. So it makes any extremely unpopular view appear more supported. I can't find much about how this was done, if it was an online opt-in poll I'd be especially suspicious.

Edit: it seems this was done with a Ipsos KnowledgePanel, which as I suspected is an online, paid, opt-in panel. This is exactly the kind of design that's prone to speed running for cash.

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[–] [email protected] 32 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Compare to George W. Bush, who said:

"We’re also a nation of immigrants, and we must uphold that tradition, which has strengthened our country in so many ways."

and:

"Some in this country argue that the solution is to — is to deport every illegal immigrant and that any proposal short of this amounts to amnesty. I disagree. It is neither wise nor realistic to round up millions of people, many with deep roots in the United States, and send them across the border."

and:

"We must honor the great American tradition of the melting pot, which has made us one nation out of many peoples. The success of our country depends upon helping newcomers assimilate into our society, and embrace our common identity as Americans."

Source

I'm not saying G.W. was good or anything, but god damn that's a big change from what we see now from Republicans.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I got a lot of heat for saying it before, but as a Latino, out of all his shit, racist is not something I ever got from Bush. He did a lot for Africa in terms of foreign aid, more than any president before him. He has positive things to say about immigration like you mentioned, and he grew up around a lot of Latinos, and his brother is married to a Mexican. So I never saw his family as racists. Fuck how is it possible I'm missing the Bush family?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

You never saw GW Bush as racist, but Middle Eastern Americans would disagree because leaders at that time didn’t do enough to combat the wave of Islamophobia which occurred after 9/11. Now it’s just the Latinos turn being the scapegoat. Republicans almost always play the racism card, just the target is different. Americans deserve better.

Edit to point out that when I say “Republicans” in my post, I mean the talking heads. I know individuals and people who may vote Republican may not necessarily feel the same

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago

Don't 30-40% of any given population support a strong man/fascist anyway?

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Sooo…. A third of Americans have no problem admitting that the part of their brain that processes logic and reason is irreparably damaged.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago

More like not developed. Though I suppose a bit of both.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 month ago (1 children)

All you pale face non-natives gyit the fuuuck out!

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

To be fair, a significant percentage of those non-natives didn't choose to be here in the first place.

Not the paleface ones, but...

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 month ago (1 children)

After working construction for decades I can say that American workers are shit compared to foreigners. Muslim workers are the hardest. Especially from Ethiopia or Somalia. They learn fast too and are better in many cases than Mexican or SA workers. PLUS no drug or alcohol or daddy/mommy/religious issues.

When I was building in Africa we finished a project 3 days early. They didn’t even have the skills, we taught on site. That would NEVER happen with regular Americans.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago

Those are immigrants though. Have you ever seriously looked into the bullshit you need to go through to move to another country? It's insane.

Every immigrant is more impressive than any Olympian.

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