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Google is weakening ad blockers as part of their MV3 extension standard and this will trickle down into all Chromium browsers. Built in ad blockers lack features compared to uBlock Origin as well.

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[–] [email protected] 29 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

Now introducing Enshittium Browser ad diarrhea flows freely

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

Oh I should market this idea, maybe polish up the slogan. I will pay all users half of the ad revenue, which they can see tick up on their browser...

Then it will be super invasive and vacuum up as much user data as possible, but not mention it to the users, so they don't think to quantify it.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 weeks ago

The first thing I thought of for user assessment testing was the enhanced reality helmet from Space Cop where it's just pop ups and malware until you get ran over by one of those digital mobile billboard platform trucks you see in Vegas.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 weeks ago

that's why I haven't downloaded OperaGX to run twitch in the background

[–] [email protected] 44 points 1 month ago (9 children)

Duh, Firefox. This is not a problem.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 4 weeks ago (3 children)

Great, they're going to make browser exclusive content. Locked down even worse than it is. Intentional, not just lazy incompatibilities.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago (10 children)

I've recently switched to FF as my main browser, but I still need Chrome for some work things. And some people will want to stay on Chrome. So for them, this IS a problem.

Just dismissing it because other browsers exist isn't helpful.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

Yes it is. It's not some unobtainable solution like you need to give 1/10 of your pay or giving away your freedom. It's easy, free and almost painless solution that will solve your problems. You can't try to cure your lung cancer and continue smoking.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 weeks ago (2 children)

You missing the part where some people still have to use Chrome for certain things?

Sneering about how they should use other browsers does not help them.

Nor is the lung cancer thing helpful, so much as it is an utterly absurd comparison.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 weeks ago (2 children)

The more people use Firefox, the better. Lots of people had to use Internet Explorer for things... Until they didn't because Chrome was faster and web devs focused on browser-agnostic technologies.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

They made a choice, they live with the consequences.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Anyone know how/if this affects Opera GX? I've been curious about it for a while but with MV3 it makes me curious if they will do anything at all. Or honestly if Opera GX even could block ad's and such, I never checked

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago

Opera is chromium based, so yes it's affected.

[–] [email protected] 49 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Firefox and its other forks are the best option right now

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 month ago

Has been for as long as I can remember.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Highly recommend setting up a PiHole. It may not be quite as comprehensive as uBlock, but it cuts the ads way down, and it's not something that browsers can easily bypass. You do have to make sure to shut of DNS over HTTPS, or setup a separate solution for that to tunnel into PiHole.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago) (3 children)

aaaaaaand then there's Android.

Android will not remove your default DNS, and will only use added DNS servers as additional rather-than instead of.

edit: this is only if you aim individual devices at a pihole instance and not wrapping your whole network or vlan to pihole. If you're forcing every request the phone makes, it doesn't matter and this is moot.

There are free apps that make localhost VPNs on your device to bypass this that force your network to use a chosen DNS server.

This is also a built-in function of Tailscale, setting Tailscale's DNS to Pihole or Adguard, and were you running wireguard or openvpn already, you could use them as entrypoints as well.

Mullvad and other paid VPN services often also offer to use DNS servers that blocks ads, tracking and malware.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 weeks ago (2 children)

Pihole has always worked as expected on my Pixel phones. To the point that I have to drop off of our wifi to visit some sites when they don't load correctly. Pihole is happening at the router level though, not a setting on my phone. Unless Android starts tunneling around it (I wouldn't put this past Google), then all traffic will continue to go through Pihole since it's going through our router. Any device connected to our network has Pihole as its DNS.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

Not sure that's right on all phones. Browsing on my Pixel 6 shows noticeably fewer ads when I'm at home compared to anywhere else.

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[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 month ago

I know that ploum blog post gets cited way too often on Lemmy, but this is a situation where I think Google has either intentionally or inadvertently executed a variation of the "embrace, extend, extinguish" playbook that Microsoft created.

They embraced open source, extended it until they've practically cornered the market on browser engine, and now they are using that position to extinguish our ability to control our browsing experience.

I know they are facing a possibly "break up" with the latest ruling against them.

It would be interesting to see if they force divestiture of chrome from the ad business. The incentives are perverse when you do both with such dominance and its a massive conflict of interest.

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