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Bandai Namco has reportedly turned to the unspoken Japanese tradition of layoff-by-boredom by stuffing unwanted employees into oidashi beya, or "expulsion rooms."

Employees ~~banished~~ reassigned to oidashi beya are left to do nothing, or given menial tasks at best. According to Bloomberg's unnamed insider sources, Bandai Namco has moved around 200 of its 1,300 person team to these rooms in recent months.

The goal of sticking someone in an expulsion room is to literally bore or shame them into quitting, and Bloomberg's sources claim it has worked on around half the people Bandai Namco has stuck in there so far.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 weeks ago

This was a plot arc in Aggretsuko

[–] [email protected] 31 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

If I'm still getting paid from this with little to no task to do. That seems like an ideal job to me. Even better away from people.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 month ago (1 children)

The Japanese are one of the few countries worthy of even more pity than us Americans when it comes to slaving for and being defined by their vocation.

I agree with you completely, but people who don't play the meaningless game of career trajectory are literally shunned by family there for it.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Not to sound too Korean..... but, that's kinda the social repercussion of electing war criminals, then the children of war criminals, and the grandchildren of war criminals to lead your country.

Modern Japan is a weird poly-sci experiment examining what would happen if you took guns away from a fascist government.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

It’s not that different in Korea though. If you don’t work for Samsung or SK Group you are lower class. And your old friends who do work for those Chaebols will stop associating with you.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 weeks ago

If you don’t work for Samsung or SK Group you are lower class.

I mean, that's just factually incorrect. South Korea has a fairly large manufacturing economy, a lot of my family are shipwrights and make really decent money. The other half of my family works for banks and for the government, none of them are considered low class.

South Korea does have a pretty brutal work regiment, but they also have very aggressive trade unions who aren't afraid to go on massive and often violent strikes.

old friends who do work for those Chaebols will stop associating with you.

According to who? I mean you may stop seeing them as often, but that's just because the work culture often extends out of office. It's pretty traditional to go out drinking or eating with your coworkers, but that doesn't mean people stop associating with their friends who don't work with them.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I think I would be resentful enough to tough it out for a while and try to force their hand, but I might be giving myself too much credit. I'm pretty rebellious toward authority and would want to jam a thumb in their eye (metaphorically).

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago

I'd be watching Twitch all day. These guys are dumb.

[–] [email protected] 55 points 1 month ago (1 children)

To skirt Canadian employment laws, a previous employer gave me unrealistic targets and even when I acheived them she would say I'm underperforming. This exists in every country. Employers will always find a way to make it look like the employee quit of their own volition.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 month ago

Sounds a lot like Amazon. Hope you're doing better now.

[–] [email protected] 45 points 1 month ago (3 children)

In the immortal words of that dumbo from Blizz "do you guys not have phones?"

If you leave me in a room and give me no tasks while still paying me, you've got me on salary to slack. And I will outperform everyone. Or no one, I'm not sure which one.

And honestly figuring that out is probably not in my job description anymore.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

Time to work on my screenplay/book/stand-up routine/music!

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago

And company has cameras. Where I live, most monitor workers 24/7. So they would that especially while trying to get rid of you.

Of course, they say it's for security and that's what you sign for, so they can't simply grab screen of you on phone and throw you out...however, suddenly management gets super instinct.

[–] [email protected] 48 points 1 month ago (6 children)

Seems nice at first, but having worked jobs with nothing to do, time passes so slow. It’s painful.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

Not for me. I can zone out for hours like it's nothing.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 weeks ago

Used to work security. Even when on a street corner observing for state legislature meetings (no phone allowed), I played games of rearranging letters on billboards or vehicles to make new words. (They have cameras and police, I was just there as a deterrent). Wouldn't have been so bad if it wasn't 18 degrees F and 32mph winds...

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

Pick up a hobby, read a book. Not sure how Japan or other countries are living, but one thing we still have in the USA are public libraries. We can download an app and check out books. For free. There is a lot more stuff at the actual library, but downloading books and reading them for money sounds like something I can retire doing. I take book reading days at my current job. As long as I put in "8 hours" of work they don't care how I spend my 8 hours.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago

If you know they are just trying to get you to quit and don't actually want you to do anything, I imagine it's easier than a job where you have to worry about how you appear to bosses and others. The facade of being productive itself can be taxing.

But it also depends how much leeway they give to do whatever. If you know you can just stay up all night and come in to sleep 8 hours, the time could pass pretty quickly...

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 month ago

Yup. I used to work at a toy store in my local mall that was just not doing business. Anytime I worked, I'd get maybe 5 customers a shift, and these were like 10-6 shifts.

I was so bored I felt like I could cry just to pass the time. There were a couple times where I straight up took a nap behind the counter because I was so tired and bored.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 month ago

Yep. There is a reason why "layoff-by-boredom" exists and works. It's uncomfortable for most us to be bored.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I'd take slow and nothing to do over getting worked to the bone daily every time, I've had both. I have an active imagination, I manage.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago

You don't have to choose between the two evils though. There are just normal jobs.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 month ago (1 children)

"But hey, at least we just kick people out the door >in the states."

What kind of dumb fuck shit is this author to think that's its a better option to up and fire someone instead of putting someone in a room with no work and paying them until they find a new job on their own?

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 month ago

Some people adore the taste of boot

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