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[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 hours ago

That's what we call A False Equivalence.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 10 hours ago (2 children)

I think it was more along the lines of, "I'm not sure I believe they're actually targeting kids." And then, "oh my God the UN has video evidence of Israel targeting peace keepers."

I don't think most people are okay with killing kids. The hurdle is getting them to realize it is happening.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

How can anyone not be sure, with all the videos, the reports from the NGO, hell even the bragging from the IDF

[–] [email protected] 1 points 44 minutes ago

I didn't make my point well enough. I'm going to copy a response to another commenter here and hopefully that helps.

The point is people can hand waive a lot to feel better about the world they live in. I'm not going to complain because it took this other thing to get them to the realization. I'm just going to welcome them in. In fact this is the exact kind of meme I would run if I was trying to push people away from the BDS movement.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

I'd believe that if it wasn't for all the video evidence of them killing kids, or the fact the average age in Gaza before the genocide was already under 16.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 hour ago

The point is people can hand waive a lot to feel better about the world they live in. I'm not going to complain because it took this other thing to get them to the realization. I'm just going to welcome them in. In fact this is the exact kind of meme I would run if I was trying to push people away from the BDS movement.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

There is a difference though, and that is that while babies tend to be in the vicinity of adults, that could potentially be terrorists, you cannot make the same assumption (if you were to actually be make it in the former case) about uniformed and distinctly marked UN-peacekeepers that have their own bases. Attacking that letter can not be collateral damage or be an attack on potential terrorists, while the former could with a lot of mental gymnastics be legitimised (though not morally justified).

And let's be real, international diplomacy is the art of mental gymnastics at olympic level.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 hour ago

you cannot make the same assumption (if you were to actually be make it in the former case) about uniformed and distinctly marked UN-peacekeepers that have their own bases.

Actually, that's exactly what the Israeli government did, they said they were trying to attack Hezbollah bases and the Peacekeepers should leave the area. And somehow, some people believe them.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

I've completely lost the thread.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

Israel attacked UN peacekeepers.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

Multiple times, voluntarily

[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

I mean, how do you attack someone involuntarily? Or you mean voluntarily as in not by accident?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Yeah, perhaps "intentionally instead of accidentally".

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

Pay no attention to the Hezbollah operated tunnel system near the compounds lookout tower.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 15 minutes ago

Pay no attention to history. Israel is just loving the aftermath of the Oct 7 2023 attack. That attack was a gift. also Netanyahu gets to continue avoiding the consequences of his actions.

[–] [email protected] 37 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I mean, they're just babies. How good can they really even be at murdering? I'll give em a pass. Now a couple dozen murdering toddlers with knives? At that point we may have a problem. I'm pretty sure I could still take them, but I'll probably need stitches before it's over.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

You doing this barehanded? I'd at least give you a stick or something.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

You give me a bat and they're going to be annihilated.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago)

I dig your style.

[–] [email protected] 75 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Well, it is middle-eastern babies. Not like they're white babies or something.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 19 hours ago

Hey, you're not supposed to say this out loud!