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Keyloggers have been present since (at least) win 7. You're all way too late.
Can’t really move to Linux if I have to make software for Windows since the majority of people won’t move to Linux.
Go to press Windows + W and see what happens on Windows 11
Okay?.. like, I get the point. But you’re telling me Linux does literally nothing you don’t want out of the box? It’s like saying “Run sudo rm -rf / —no-preserve-root and see what happens on Linux.”
W10... Nothing.
W11, some bullshit popover sidebar thing that takes up actually (Literally? Factually?) 50% of my desktop that tells me about the NASDAQ, the weather, some "local" roadworks in the next city over (when my street has roadworks blocking some significant traffic lights in the literal capital of my country), some recommendations for games, a shopping ad, and some bullshit news headlines that I don't care about.
The LSTC edition has a few more years in it... but I wouldn't do MASS in a GRAVE... ehr, I mean - fuck.
Look, just search for "MassGrave" on GitHub.
Sadly it is not about learning Linux but getting the software you use on a daily basis natively supported by the OS, that is why Linux is still not there for me yet.
What do you use on a daily basis that's not supported? I see this kind of comment all the time and nobody wants to tell me!
I use Figma (a UX design tool). It has browser support but I prefer the native app experience, I’ve seen there are Linux versions on GitHub but I heard they have some compatibility or performance issues sometimes and I need it to be 100% reliable as it is for work. I also use some Adobe products sporadically (Illustrator and Photoshop) FOSS software doesn’t make the cut for professional use, even if they do nearly the same, since you need standard industry tools.
I also like gaming and even though Linux is almost there (I love my Steam Deck) I see so many people struggling here and there and I really don’t feel like tinkering, I already tinker enough on Windows to get my games working properly.
But all in all I’m still interested in Linux and keeping an eye on it and might pull the trigger some day even if is only for personal use/tinkering :)
That's where I am, I'm looking at switching my gaming computer over to fiddle with it, see what's going on.
Poor hdr support is one for games and shows.
Okay. I can see that being an issue. I'm fine without HDR but I know people who aren't.
Microsoft office suite? Adobe, most DAWs. PCVR.
There are alternatives for some of these things. IMO libreoffice is good, but buggy compared to the MS office suite.
Some people were saying MS Office will still run in the browser though and that's 90 percent of my use case these days to be honest.
Yeah that's fair. I'm very into hotkeys and macros to speed up my workflow, so the browser doesn't do it for me.
I do main Linux (OpenSUSE Tumbleweed), but its not a machine I use for doing serious work.
Honestly, I've just switched (after 27 years of windows) like two months ago, and I don't miss any of that old crap. Not once have I thought "damn, wish I could have this software under Linux", because there was always an alternative.
Arch btw.
Libreoffice rules
It's the best office suite for Linux, I just think MS office is a better product. Maybe I'm wrong and it would be great if I was more competent with it.
Basically "professional software" that isn't tech related.
There are fantastic alternatives that are (nearly) transparent for individual users.
There are BETTER alternatives for some software.
But working in a team/company that doesn't prioritise Linux accessibility is painful. And it's pain that people aren't paid to deal with to complete their actual workload.
MS has corporate by the balls.
You guys do realize that you can remove copilot from Windows 11 with a simple regedit or group policy editor tweak, right? Takes like 10 seconds..
The amount of times that windows "features" come back after I disable them via GPO on Windows 10 Entrerprise tells me that this isn't true.
The irony that setting up Windows now requires more command line use than Linux in 2024.
If you're using Enterprise on a personal machine, you've messed something up. There are other ways beyond Group Policy in that environment that are probably causing what you're seeing. SCCM, Intune, Policies over the network vs local... that significantly raises the chances of something else stepping on your local Group Policies.
I've not had that problem on either of my Win 10 Pro machines when using Group Policy to disable things, over the last four years.
It's too easy for them to turn back on without me realizing it, and I'm not going to tolerate having to be that vigilant against something, my own computer, which has absolutely no reason to be hostile to me.
And you can't afford to fuck this one up. Microsoft Recall isn't just a virus, it's worse than just about any other virus. "Did you forget to double check Microsoft's bullshit on the wrong day lol enjoy your keylogger"
For now, until MS locks that downvlike they have with other things
Until they lobby to get laws changed, many companies have legal requirements regarding PII that mean serious fines if CoPilot or Recall ever turn on in their environment (and if they're caught of course).
Windows is not going to fuck this up and force this on, handing easy legal wins against them to the world. They will have the normal configuration options available that they always do for features with potential legal liability attached.
Did you miss the recent security blunder with Government security and Microsoft? They didn't want to tell governments of a secuirty hole in case it meant lowers sales.
And you can skip most of the bullshit by setting up Windows using English UK instead of English USA (and then you can adjust your regional settings and keyboard however you prefer)
Is copilot regionalised? I'm in NZ and have been running Windows 11 for a year or so, and have never seen copilot appear.
yah, i have linux on all my devices save one and ive found ways to get win11 to just work without the bullshit.
it just takes about as much effort to learn systemd syntax because everything became the systemd singularity.
Honestly I downgraded to 10 earlier this year. Then the windows 11 update came out that boosts Ryzen performance, well my happy ass couldn't miss out on them gains. So back to 11 I went.
My PC is pretty much strictly used for gaming so more power is more power.
I immediately de-bloated once I was updated.
Can't wait to see what industries that handle sensitive data will do when Recall becomes an integrated part of Windows 11. They might have no choice but to migrate to Linux.
They will pay for enterprise licenses and be able to disable and delete it.
Only us plebs get whipped.
Exactly. Group policies give lots of control to mass enable/disable features.
It's one of the reasons to pirate Enterprise Windows instead of Home/Pro, so you can write your own group policies for your own device.
Been doing that for the past 15 years or so, being able to use group policy is essential with Windows. I'm pretty sure my son really wants to upgrade his last computer (to Linux), but I may have more work to convince the wife.
I always just bought grey market keys (for Pro/Enterprise), in nearly 20 years I never had one fail or quit working randomly.
Just installed an update to 10 2 days ago to find that it had installed Copilot and put an icon for it on my taskbar. Stuff like this is why 10 will be my last version of Windows.
Copilot is not an issue, it's Recall that could send screenshots of all files and folders to Microsoft.
Even if they don't send data, it is a treasure trove for a hacker to get. Such a terrible idea MS came up with.