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[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

You guys realize that a lot of conservatives don't like politicians, right? Also, conservatives are not a monolith.

Think of how a lot of leftists don't like the DNC.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Does this mean yall will finally stop complaining about Hunter Biden’s cock? Half joking here.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Again, not a monolith. Some really care. Some don't.

Personally, I find the hunter thing worth exploring, if hes passing money to Biden. Same as if any other person was giving 40,000 grand to Biden.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago

Do you find the Trumps worth exploring and Jared's $2BILLION investment from the Saudi's or Ivanka's $600MILLION paycheck from her time in the White House? Or is it different when Republicans do it?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

It seems you're the one obsessed with Hunter's genitals.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Because I mentioned them in a single thread as a joke?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago

We are back to being disingenuous, you've spent this whole time debating what you said and now that you are trapped in a corner your response is it was just a prank bro.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

This article seems to draw the wrong point from the interview. The historian being interviewed says the quickness to resort to violence by Republican politicians is nearly identical to that of Southern politicians right before the US Civil War. She notes that these Southern politicians were emboldened by the fact that they could do anything and not be politically reprimanded for it. Their constituents actually liked how violent they were, so it just kept getting worse. She notes that modern day Republicans enjoy the same luxury. The historian stops short of saying America is headed towards another civil war because their politicians would rather use threat and violence over debate and compromise, and the American voters like it.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

We may be heading towards another civil war. While people like to think slavery was the only cause of the war, it was more complicated than that. We have many different cultures and sometimes those cultures collide. I am a small government Republican, which means I support abortion as the government should stay out of an adult's medical care. I am not religious, and I'm not too fond of the mixing of abortion and religion. While I respect religions and do attend mass on occasion, I do not want your sky God dictating what I can do with my body.

The problem is both parties are spewing things that don't really solve anything.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I mean this with no insult. You’re in the wrong party if you want any of those things. And I’m curious, what DO you like about the Republican Party today, and don’t say taxes.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago (2 children)

No I’m in the right party. I’m not a rabid racist like the democrats. I’m against large government. I’m against wages theft through taxation.

You know that slavery, kkk we’re all democrat things and still are?

There is nothing positive in me about the democrats.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

You know that slavery, kkk we’re all democrat things and still are

According to whom? Both of these things have always been far right ideologies. Are you forgetting the two main parties switched in name a century ago?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

So what policies changed? Name 3 politicians that swapped sides.

You want to know why you can't? Because it was a pr campaign. Thats it.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

The switch happened over several decades. The goal posts you manufactured don't make sense.

https://www.livescience.com/34241-democratic-republican-parties-switch-platforms.html

[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Why were many of the democrats that voted against the civil rights acts still representing the house and Senate in the 80's and 90's?

Why did renouned member of the KKK Robert Byrd serve until his death in 2010?

Why was segregationist Joe Biden chosen as as a democrat nominee for the presidential election?

When ever you claim the parties switched you'll find racists democrats still representing the party.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Why were many of the democrats that voted against the civil rights acts still representing the house and Senate in the 80’s and 90’s?

Why did renouned member of the KKK Robert Byrd serve until his death in 2010?

Why was segregationist Joe Biden chosen as as a democrat nominee for the presidential election?

Because the switch wasn't instantaneous, nor affiliation/group based. Individuals themselves changed their thoughts and party affiliation, not just party affiliation.

When ever you claim the parties switched you’ll find racists democrats still representing the party.

The KKK literally, currently supports GOP candidates. Trump was caught doing housing segregation. The GOP regularly gerrymanders to reduce the power of black voters. The GOP regularly shuts down voting places in black neighborhoods to keep voting lines long. White nationalists are waving the flag of Trump.

The democratic party is a shit show. But the GOP is a god damn dumpster fire. Our political system regularly elects racist old men, on both sides. What did you expect?

At least on my side of the line there ain't white nationalists. That's plenty for me.


PRRI also asked respondents whether they believed that, “It always makes the country better when all Americans speak up and protest unfair treatment by government.” Then, it asked the same question, but substituted “Black Americans” for “all Americans.” Democrats made no distinction between the two questions: 71 percent answered Yes to both. Among Republicans, however, 49 percent believed it made the country better when all Americans spoke up and protested unfair governmental treatment, but just 24 percent believed it when Black Americans spoke up and protested. Among Republicans whose most trusted news source is Fox News, the gap was 47 percent Yes for all Americans, and a bare 10 percent for Blacks.

https://prospect.org/blogs-and-newsletters/tap/how-racist-are-republicans-very/

https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/the-american-prospect/

But somehow democrats are the ones that are racist.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

The article your citing misquoted the study. Here was the actual question asked. It's not the smoking gun you think it is.

When Americans speak up and protest unfair treatment by the government, it always makes our country better.

When Black Americans speak up and protest unfair treatment by the government, it always makes our country better.

The always part is the word that changes the question. The BLM riots did not make our country better.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago

Thank you for proving my point.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

You must be really old if you can recall a time when democrats discriminated against people based on race. ;-) Parties change. The modern GOP is all about big government, control of people, censorship, and racism.

But, your answer said all I need to know about your actual position.

Thanks

[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

The democrats still discriminate against people based on race. It’s a core part is their platform.

And no, you have the gop wrong. Covid proved that the gop wasn’t about control. They let people make informed decisions about their health. The democrats wanted to force vaccinations and mask on everyone.

Seems like you don’t know much about the GOP

[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Which democratic policies are you thinking of that discriminate based on race?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

What are the major Republican talking points? Trans? Drag? It’s like you’re not being told what the GQP is actually.

Also, that article is labeled opinion, and those aren’t facts.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Small government. Lower taxes. Protection of constitutional rights. Freedom of association.

Not sure what drag. Trans means. Some context would be useful.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Well, unless you’re extremely wealthy, the Republican Party has not lowered taxes for the middle class in the past 20 years or so. Obviously, there is a lot to consider like tax credits, etc. But that blanket statement of “Republicans lower taxes “is not entirely accurate.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Trump raised my taxes. I’m solid middle class 300-500k a year on average. I got a nice tad bump due to the salt changes. Wealth has little to do with taxes. Taxes are based in income which is not the same as wealth

[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

300-500k is not middle class.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

It is the income range of most people I know. I am nothing overly unique in what I make.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago

You might consider updating your knowledge beyond what is immediately in front of you.