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[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago (5 children)

our good buddy Jordan Lasker aka Cremieux aka TP0 gives a talk to Stanford libertarians

i haven't watched this but i am confident it is the most cursed fuckin thing

one hour thirty frickin eight

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Over on /r/politics, there are several users clamoring for someone to feed the 1900 page independent counsel report into an LLM, which is an interesting instance of second-order laziness.

They also seem convinced that NotebookLLM is incapable of confabulation which is hilarious and sad. Could it be sneaky advertising?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Bob Dylan has responded to a Bitcoin Groyper account

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago (5 children)
[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago

That’s amazing, I wish I had that kind of discipline to learn!

I can’t decide what’s worse: the fucking insulting tone that sounds like I’m about to get a pamphlet about Joseph Smith or GameStop or some shit, or that the suggestions just make up opinions you don’t have and events that didn’t happen

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Day 2686 of wondering how much Google can keep enshittifying everything it touches before people catch on.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I know you probably had no intention behind the number, but I just had to check. 2686 days ago was 12 June 2017. Pretty sure we’ve known about how google fumbles shit from way before then!

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago (3 children)

That was the day when the transformer paper was released that kicked off this whole LLM shitshow. So my intention was just a little nod towards that. ;)

But yeah, the real number is probably quite a bit larger than that.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago

I see. Please forgive this philistine!

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago (2 children)

somone could make a command-line utility like sdate, but for blarney engines!

what would be a good name for it, do you reckon? The first thing to pop into my head was shitdate but that's too close to the original and distro maintainers might get prissy about packages with swears in them

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

ASTx, autoplag standard time, but with tzdb entries localized as relative to each seminal paper/work

for geolocale, I suggest coordinates such as null island, and wraparound/bounding-box corners (per multiple mainstream map projection)

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago
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[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago

But users like engagement! Which means seeing that the person wrote a thing and not reading the thing and making a human connection with someone who is, y'know, engaged in conversation.

I know chatbots don't track meaning, but I'm pretty sure words still mean things.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago

That will certainly improve the mh of yters who already feel they are under extreme pressure.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago (3 children)

sammy boi is giving up on the pretense that any of this was about enriching lives, and is now only focusing on the eyegrab (archive)

anyone wanna take bets on how much pearlclutching surprisedpikachu we'll see

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Create the problem and sell the solution.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Kinda surprised World(Coin) was still ongoing, thought saltman would have quietly buried the project now he's busy shilling ChatGPT

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago

The 0.000001% chance that this thing morphs into the new global reserve currency is enough for a proper rationalist to keep it trundling along, don't you think?

Also don't underestimate the value of having someplace to park useful cronies you don't currently have any other job for

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

anyone wanna take bets on how much pearlclutching surprisedpikachu we’ll see

I suspect we'll see a fair amount. Giving some specifics:

  1. I suspect we'll see Sammy accused of endangering all of humanity for a quick buck - taking Altman at his word, OpenAI is attempting to create something which they themselves believe could wipe out humanity if they screw things up.

  2. I expect calls to regulate the AI industry will louden in response to this - what Sammy's doing here is giving the true believers more ammo to argue Silicon Valley's may potentially trigger the robot apocalypse that Silicon Valley themselves have claimed AI is capable of unleashing.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

perhaps saltman will have enough audacity to promote this as a way to ensure that some account is owned by a human, after flooding every corner of internet with ai slop and fake accounts

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago

that’s almost certainly the plan — I remember there was some horrific “proof of humanity” shit tied in with this, supposedly so that you could tell if you’re interacting with a human rather than a chatbot. there’s so many problems with that technically of course, not least of which is the chatbot guy also owning the proof of not-bot, but there’s deeper horrifying implications: this is the technology conservatives have been begging for to block access to “adult sites” (see: LGBTQ+ spaces and associates) and “protect voting” (see: purge voter registries). that the technology is fucking stupid and doesn’t work doesn’t matter to them — as always with technofascism, that’s a feature.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago (2 children)

here’s the latest on the wordpress situation thanks to 404media:

New alignment offer: I guess some people were sad they missed the last window. Some have been leaking to the press and ex-employees. That's water under the bridge. Maybe the last offer needed to be higher. People have said they want a new window, so this is my attempt. Here's a new one: You have until 00:00 UTC Oct 17 (-4 hours) to DM me the words, ‘I resign and would like to take the 9-month buy-out offer’ You don't have to say any reason, or anything else. I will reply ‘Thank you.’ Automattic will accept your resignation, you can keep you [sic] office stuff and work laptop; you will lose access to Automattic and Wong (no slack, user accounts, etc). HR will be in touch to wrap up details in the coming days, including your 9 months of compensation, they have a lot on their plates right now. You have my word this deal will be honored. We will try to keep this quiet, so it won't be used against us, but I still wanted to give Automatticians another window.

there’s a (mid) joke here about how a boy who’s obsessed with photography really should understand more about optics

and who wouldn’t trust their livelihood in a difficult job market to a promise from a very stable genius like matt, who will destroy you financially if he thinks you talked to the press:

After an exodus of employees at Automattic who disagreed with CEO Matt Mullenweg’s recently divisive legal battle with WP Engine, he’s upped the ante with another buyout offer—and a threat that employees speaking to the press should “exit gracefully, or be fired tomorrow with no severance.”

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago

alignment offer

That's sure a choice of words, ain't it

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago

this guy's information diet is 90% recycled memes by volume, isn't it

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago

New piece from The Atlantic: The AI Boom Has an Expiration Date

The full piece is worth a read, but the conclusion's pretty damn good, so I'm copy-pasting it here:

All of this financial and technological speculation has, however, created something a bit more solid: self-imposed deadlines. In 2026, 2030, or a few thousand days, it will be time to check in with all the AI messiahs. Generative AI—boom or bubble—finally has an expiration date.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago (3 children)
[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago

1.2 million in the last two days, according to them.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

It really is incredible how bad twitter got to make me root for the company that thinks DID is good protocol design and that was started by Jack Dorsey.

But heck it I'm (cautiously) rooting for Bluesky.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

This sadly has caused my login problems to reappear on bsky. No idea what they are doing with their service, but I'm having regular issues with the site. Also seems 'downforeveryoneorjustme' enshittified. (the image is showing a part of the site which is now an advertisement for some AI bullshit chatbot/imagegenerator everything aislop roleplay thing). (seems to be fixed now, but wow did bsky have weird issues for me).

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago

looks like the name server is getting hammered

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