I call bullshit. He wasn't there to assassinate Trump. If he was, they sure as shit aren't letting him out on $5k bond the same day with only minor charges.
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Local outlets say that Miller is a registered Republican. He has a master's degree from UCLA and campaigned for Nevada's state assembly in 2022, but lost in the primary election, according to local daily newspaper The Press-Enterprise.
Bianco said he is part of a right-leaning anti-government group and considers himself a sovereign citizen, someone who does not believe they are subject to government laws unless they agree to them.
https://www.newsweek.com/who-vem-miller-man-arrested-loaded-gun-outside-trump-rally-1968341
I'm more amused than I really should be about how they are eating their own now. Unless I'm misremembering, none of the three have been lefties of any stripe.
All three were Republicans.
I thought that one kid was a registered Republican, but his political beliefs were unknown. He also donated to some left-wing group, didn't he?
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I don’t want to give any sovcits any credit at all but trumps recent rhetoric is so openly authoritarian that some of them might have actually realized the face eating leopard is a threat to them too
Edit: I can’t believe I just thought of this, but these could also be folks that hopes to start a civil war because they either believe it’s inevitable, are obsessed with the Turner Diaries, or both.
What's the Turner Diaries?
A white supremacist fever dream fanfiction in which American whites rise up under white supremacy and slaughter all people of color and "race traitors" in the country on the oft-cited "Day of the Rope." It culminates with the movement taking control of the US nuclear arsenal and taking their holocaust international.
And this is what lead up to the Oklahoma City bombing in the 90s.
Was the magazine for the handgun? Cause high capacity for a shotgun is like 7 shells.
Why can't 2nd amendment advocates open carry at Trump's rallies? Does he not support gun rights?
Does Donald "take the guns first, due process later" Trump support gun rights? You tell me.
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I thought that 75% of Trump rally people were armed regularly.
What about all the good guys with guns? We can stop this guy with guns in his car but school shootings? Impossible to prevent.
A lot of those attendees glad the cops didn't check their vehicle
Is it my imagination or are these dim-witted assassins getting easier to catch. Trump didn't even get to bandage his ear this time.
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Another Republican, I am shocked
It's kind of amazing how this is suddenly all blowing back on him. His years of calling for violence is just causing all these guys to aim that violence towards him. Did he say something that pissed off/disappointed a subset of his followers or something?
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Also a sovereign citizen.
If he's a SovCit, I'm surprised he doesn't have an RPG in his car to be honest. And it wouldn't have anything to do with Trump. It would have to do with their contract being violated or whatever.
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So the NRA is going to hold a press conference about how this man's second amendment rights were infringed, right?
Also, every time I see "Trump rally in Coachella," for just a second I think, "why is he holding a rally at the music festival?"
Up until right now, I always thought Coachella was just the name of the festival, not a place - sort of like Burning Man.
I've never been more confused by a headline in my life.
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I always said if they were shooting up boardrooms instead of classrooms we’d have gun control yesterday.
Someone shot up a Congressional softball game. Nothing happened.
That’s not a boardroom. That’s just their employees.
Compromises and shoots school boards. Ends up on lemmybewholesome.
*FBI feverishly updating their watchlist
Lol
I consider this a step in the right direction.
The deranged armed lunatics are now starting to attack someone who deserves it instead of random innocent children.
This is actually MORE normal than the school shootings, and makes more sense. School children aren't coming for your lives and livelihoods, but DonOLD tRump? Definitely trying to make your life immeasurably worse in measurable ways.
letthemfight.png
This is what everyone keeps saying the 2nd amendment was for, right? Tyrants?
I'm closing this ticket with, "Operating as intended."
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This is the USA, someone with a loaded gun in their car is near anything all the time.
not high capacity magazines though.
High capacity could mean a completely typical magazine to every person who actually uses said gun, depending on the reporter.
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"high-capacity magazine" can refer to anything ranging from a fairly standard AR15 30-round stanag mag to a 200-round box magazine. Like, technically a high-capacity magazine is any magazine that holds more rounds than a standard magazine for a given firearm; but legally-speaking most states with laws regulating magazine capacity tend to define "high-capacity" as being more than 10~15 rounds for rifles.
So they could have had a normal Glock-19 magazine (illegal in some states as they hold 15 rounds, more than some states allow pistols to have) or a loose AR15 magazine in their glovebox from their last gunshoot, or they could have had a 100 round drum mag for their Glock.
Edit: California sounds like they have a universal 10-round magazine limit, which means a standard G19 magazine would be illegal.
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Looks like this is California. High capacity there is just a standard magazine you get most everywhere else.
Depends on what “high capacity” means in this report
I would be interested to see what information comes out on this one. A shotgun and handgun isn't going to do shit for an assassination attempt. Unless you are Gavrilo Princip.
I dunno, a homemade shotgun worked well enough on Shinzo Abe.
He also was able to get much closer to Abe because guns are illegal in Japan. This gave the assassin a number of avenues of cover. It was a makeshift weapon so didn't really look like a gun, it wasn't easy for security to identify it as a gun, and the lack of guns added to the sense of security allowing people to be closer to Abe.
Wasn't that an electric harpoon gun?
A knife would work in the U.S.
Handguns did the job on Ronald Reagan and almost for Gerald Ford.
Leaving Abe Lincoln to one side, but if you are lucky and your security detail is a bit lax, a handgun can get the job done. I'm Australian, so we don't see much of that sort of thing.
Lincoln completely different story. Doesn't count.
Garfield shot by a walk up, McKinley, Reagan; all same.
Jackson one failed, T. Roosevelt one failed, F. D. Roosevelt one miss, Ford two (nothing chambered, to slow),
Bush one shoe and some "cat like reflects." Also a handkerchief almost got his ass.
That is it. U.S. history over the last 248 years.
A Nevada man with a shotgun, loaded handgun, ammunition and several fake passports in his vehicle was arrested at a security checkpoint outside Donald Trump’s rally Saturday night in the Southern California desert, authorities said. He was released the same day on $5,000 bail.
The suspect, a 49-year-old resident of Las Vegas, was driving an unregistered black SUV with a “homemade” license plate that was stopped by deputies assigned to the rally in Coachella, east of Los Angeles, Riverside County Sheriff Chad Bianco said at a news conference Sunday afternoon.
I wonder how they spotted him?
https://apnews.com/article/trump-rally-arrest-coachella-california-282a384e3fae256352c685174a3a74f4
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_States_presidential_assassination_attempts_and_plots
You seem to be implying that handguns don't count even though it has happened, or actual attempts, multiple times. Ok...?
I'm saying serious attempts in 2024 won't be a close range weapon. Back in the 1800s or early 1900s it was an option. The wiki is a very interesting read. Hell Reagan almost died from a horrible shot that got luck.
Anyone who knows anything about direct action knows that backups are mandatory and it's hard to carry several long guns.
You're not walking into a presidential rally with short to medium range weapon, definitionally after two assassinations.
Feels more like a dumbass forgot to remove their weapons or "it doesn't apply to me" person. I would actually like to see someone look up how often this happens outside this year.
Yeah, this was never going to work with how they stepped up security now. He's got a giant bulletproof glass pane in front of him now, and they've probably expanded the security perimeter.
The guy that tried to get him while golfing probably had a better strategy, but it seems to me none of those ever thought things true.
100%
I just want more information on this.
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