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The world has a lot of different standards for a lot of things, but I have never heard of a place with the default screw thread direction being opposite.

So does each language have a fun mnemonic?

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 days ago

Gas pipes. All gas fittings are reversed threaded. So it is virtually impossible to connect one to the other.

[–] [email protected] 40 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (13 children)

You know this has always confused the fuck out of me. You are going around a circle, how is there left and right? There is up-and-left, down-and-left, either way is left. If I am starting on the right of the circle (assuming I'm looking at it) which way is right? Up or down?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 days ago

I always think about the direction that the top of the circle turns to apply left or right rotation, though I usually use muscle memory.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

Clockwise = Righty

Or imagine a bottle cap instead of a screw... Muscle memory kicks in.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 days ago

Thank you! Clockwise looking down at a bottlecap makes sense!

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[–] [email protected] 34 points 3 days ago (4 children)

Finnish doesn't have one. We just learn it by instinct and use the time saved to warm up the sauna.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 days ago (3 children)

I think it's fairly parochial, and sounds quite infantile to me. Growing up (uk) we just used clockwise to tighten.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 days ago

You can cover right/left with "right is the hand you write with, and left is the one that's left" and be good for 80%-95% of the population.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 3 days ago

I'm from back in the generation when we had volume knobs.

My dad told me turn the volume up to tighten it, turn it down to loosen it.

I've never had a problem.

[–] [email protected] 36 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (10 children)

This phrase has never made any sense to me. It’s a circle. If one side is moving right, then the opposite side is moving left. So the phrase only makes sense if you specify which side we are talking about, which nobody ever does. Therefore it’s completely illogical to me while everyone else just gets it. Side note: Autism can be a real bitch sometimes.

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  1. Some people don’t understand how I can see a problem. That’s cool, but don’t be a dick. We all look at the world through different lenses.
  2. This is when I was a kid “helping” my grandfather in the garage. I’m older now and understand that “righty tighty” references the top of the rotation.
  3. Some people rotate their perspective 90° and imagine themselves standing on the screw. Therefore when your face rotates to the right the screw is tightened. I hadn’t ever thought of that. But I had imagined rotating my perspective 90° the other direction –the top of my head as a screwdriver. In that case, “lefty tighty”
[–] [email protected] 14 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Clockwise and counterclockwise may be more intuitive for some people. Is the clock-hand (wrench) going forward in time, or backwards. But I don't know of any quick rhyme for that

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

I remember when my grandpa was like why not just keep going? I was pulling the ratchet end of the wrench off the bolt at the bottom.. I said but that side is left and he laughed and said its just to get you started and told me the clock thing. Dont ever ask me to put a nut on a bolt I will cross thread it every time.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 days ago

If you're looking head on to the screw/nut/whatever then we're talking about the top of the screw/but/whatever.

You can also imagine if the nut was actually a wheel. Which way would you spin it to make it roll left or right.

Confused the hell out of me at a young age. That's how I came around to thinking of it

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 days ago (4 children)

Don't think about it in 3d space.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 days ago (1 children)

They mean is the wrench handle moving left from the 12 o'clock position or left from the 6 o'clock position. You would not believe how many people struggle with lefty righty because of start location.

I defer to clockwise and counter-clockwise (anti-clockwise in UK). Except for new gen that never learned analog clock stuggles with this concept also.

Then they encounter a Left Hand thread and the universe implodes

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Shit, a standard thread feels natural to me, but a left hand thread still fucks my life up sometimes — trying to notice what's going on before I strip it.

My grill can connect to those camping propane tanks, but it's threaded opposite... gets me every time

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 days ago

I love how half the people in this thread are under-thinking it and don't seem to understand they're doing so. I wonder whether it's a bit.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 days ago

I agree but there is a intuitive way once you are holding it. I remember looking at a car wheel and the signal lever not understanding how do people decided that up on the lever means right. Yeah it's connected to the wheel rotation but why turning the wheel clockwise means turning right? When I actually sat on the driver seat there was an instinct.For most people It's more logical to look at the "top" of the circle and corelate it's movement with turning left/right.

A thing that annoyed me is when table top games use a non determinist way to define player order. It always depends on the observer.alIf you just say "then the you pass your turn to the left", what left? From my perspective; from the top down perspective translating it to counterclockwise? From the tables perspective which is the opposite?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 days ago

I used to feel the same way. If you're talking about the direction you're moving your hand, it assumes your hand is above, not below.

Had a similar hangup with less than/greater than symbols.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 3 days ago (1 children)

But the entire rotation is either clockwise (right) or counterclockwise (left). Ultimately, its just a helpful reminder which way to turn lol

[–] [email protected] 20 points 3 days ago (5 children)

Clockwise and counter-clockwise makes sense.

But when you say “right” it’s not clear which side of the circle is being referenced. If the top of the circle is moving to the right, the bottom is moving left at the same time. So the saying only makes sense when you specify that you’re talking about the top of the circle.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (4 children)

you have to have never seen a steering wheel to not understand which side of the circle is being referenced. it's always the top. who would even reference anything else and why.

"turn it right"

"which part???"

"the middle of course, you absolute alien"

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 days ago

Because people get confused when there is no space for the wrench at the top, and they put the handle at the bottom and try to move the wrench left or right, not referencing the top of bolt.

Because they aren't using the saying as a clokwise/counter clockwise reminder but as a flat out instruction.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 days ago (23 children)

Imagine it as if it were a track you were driving around, which way would you turn the wheel?

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Yes, it's always the top side of the circle in this context, or you can think about how clock hands do go in a specific direction, because they're a radius, not a circumference. There, now it's cleared up for you.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 days ago (1 children)

The clock hands move right when at the top but left when at the bottom.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

The odd left-threaded screws are called Linksgewinde in German. Knowing this, you can sort of figure the rest out.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Aren't left handed threads used when there is torque or rotation that would cause nuts on right handed threads to loosen?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 days ago

Yes. Bicycle pedals for instance.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Probably a result of turning wrenches since I was first able, but that rule, to me, feels akin to "up the stairs take you up, down the stairs take you down".

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